Wireless desktop is going back where it came from!

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Greg Farris, May 15, 2006.

  1. Greg Farris

    Greg Farris Guest

    A few days ago I made myself a present, in the form of a Logitech S510
    wireless keyboard and mouse. I do not mean to criticize this product in
    particular, which I have no doubt fits well with many peoples' needs, and
    is competitive with other makes and models available.

    For my AutoCad work however, it just didn't cut it. First off, the center
    button on the mouse was assigned differently, and would not do the usual
    panning function in autoCad. This can be easily reconfigured though, to
    work "alomst" normally. Almost - because it also has stupid sideways
    panning buttons attached to it, which get in my way and end up making the
    normal pan function cumbersome and error prone. Worse yet, the mouse
    pointer movement is impossible to control precisely. I tried all sorts of
    settings, different speeds, with and without acceleration, different
    mousing surfaces - it almost acts as if it doesn't "want" to land on
    the exact spot you are trying to pick, and it will either go not quite
    far enough, or overshoot - it is extremely frustrating. Just as bad,
    the "click" feature (yes, the plain old vanilla mouse click) is
    unreliable. Sometimes you click and nothing happens at all. Again,
    and again and again. Other times it acts as though you have maintained
    the button, and tries to drag as soon as you want to move away. I don't
    need to tell anyone here how much I appreciate this type of behavior when
    I'm trying to work on a drawing. It is totally nerve-wracking, when
    working on a drawing have to be fighting with the mouse just to get it to
    click on something.

    Finally, the keyboard has its oddities - sometimes stops typing
    alltogether, adds double carriage returns when I'm expecting single, has
    too many of its own "hot keys" built in,getting in your way etc. But
    overall the comfort of the keyboard is OK, and it would be possible to
    get used to its strangeness - unlike the mouse, which simply doesn't
    work.

    Is my experience shared by others here?
    I am honestly surprised - I really expected the wireless mouse to work
    exactly like a wired one, and was not expecting any wierdness at all.
    How many are using wireless systems out there? Does anyone think I'm
    doing something wrong? (the soiftware is correctly installed, the
    batteries are all fresh, and the emmitter/receptor is only a few inches
    from the two devices).

    GF
     
    Greg Farris, May 15, 2006
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    Janice G Guest

    My Logitech wireless mouse and keyboard are 1 1/2yrs old and I love them
    both. The only "real" problem I have is the "return or enter" key is
    not as large as my old keyboard. Old one: 2 keys wide and one key up
    ("L" shape) New one: just 2 keys wide.

    I have not experienced any of the problems you are having. And I like
    the tilt wheel pan feature of the mouse. Goes from side to side
    effortlessly. But since everyone has his/her own way of working, when
    it doesn't work like you want, it really ticks you off and puts you in a
    foul mood.

    I also liked the old keyboard because it was like an IBM Selectric
    typewriter, with "clicking" keys. The "silent" keyboards aren't really
    that silent after all.

    Just my 2 1/2 cents, inflation, you know.
     
    Janice G, May 16, 2006
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  3. Greg Farris

    Greg Farris Guest


    Wow - amazing. Thanks for your input.
    I really wanted the freedom of the wireless mouse, and I was not at all
    expecting any performance problems. But if I cannot bring the pointer exactly
    where I want it (or if I have to "fight" to do so) and then I cannot click on
    it reliably, then it's just a waste of time.

    Maybe it's because I bought a "lower end" product? It was about $60, and there
    were others upwards of $200. Right now I have a $6.00, 1996 PS2 wheel mouse,
    and it works to perfection! Could not ask for anything better. Doesn't look
    too cool - pretty soon I'll wear through the case of it - but it sure gets
    me through my day reliably!

    GF
     
    Greg Farris, May 16, 2006
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    Jeff Guest

    I bought a $15 GE wireless mouse for use with my laptop about 2 years ago.
    It works flawlessly until the batteries are low. I do know that if the
    reciever is close to some other frequency emitter (radio, CRT monitor,
    wireless network card, etc.) the response deteriorates to the types of
    symptoms you describe. You may want to make sure the reciever is not near
    anything like those (just a few inches makes a big difference) and also make
    sure your mouse is not sitting on something that may interfere.

    I will never go back to corded.....

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, May 16, 2006
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  5. Greg Farris

    Greg Farris Guest

    Follow-up :
    Brought the wireless desktop back, and got a refund without difficulty.
    The guy seemed unsurprised that I was dissatisfied with it, so I asked if a lot
    of them are coming back for refunds. "Not a lot - but it happens" was his
    reply. I asked him if he had a better suggestion, and the only one he could
    give me was to use Logitech's high-end ultra design unit, for $250.

    I'm not ready to spend $250 on a mouse, hoping against hope it will work as
    well as my $4.00 PS2 mechanical mouse. I think I'll probably be with corded
    units for a long time to come.

    GF
     
    Greg Farris, May 22, 2006
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    Greg Farris Guest

    Well, I am not using a CRT monitor any more, but the unit is close to a
    wireless network. I will not get rid of the wireless network - If I have to
    choose between a wireless mouse and a wireless network, because the two
    interfere with each other, then I can use a corded mouse for the rest of my
    life! I'm also not ready to re-design my office to accommodate the wireless
    mouse. If they cannot make it work in a normal office setting, with all kinds
    of emmitters, cellphones, wireless printers etc, then they have not done a very
    good job. Perhaps a bluetooth version would work better?

    GF
     
    Greg Farris, May 22, 2006
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    Jeff Guest

    Greg, I'm not talking about reworking anything. What I was saying is that if
    my receiver for the cordless mouse happens to get set right next to, or
    within about 4-5 inches of, my laptop's wireless network card (which is
    built-in on the right side, near where my mouse usually sits) I experiance
    weird actions with the mouse. If I move the receiver just 1 inch away, all
    works fine.

    I did have an occassion where my mouse was just totally whacked out. It took
    me an hour to figure it out, but my nephew came to visit and was showing my
    wife some pictures he took while away at college. I was working at home on a
    job with a deadline when all of a sudden I had NO control over my mouse. To
    make a long story a bit shorter, it turns out that his laptop was on the
    table against the same wall that my desk is against and his laptop/mouse was
    closer to my laptop than my own mouse and we both had the same model of
    mouse. Moving him to another table solved my problem.

    On another note, I do know that if I set my cell phone (Kyocera) down within
    1 foot of my laptop, I can hear the comp. speakers have some noise
    interference approx. 1 second before my phone rings......

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, May 22, 2006
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