Why SUBTRACT acts like UNION?

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by the-trooper, May 5, 2004.

  1. the-trooper

    the-trooper Guest

    Hello everyone.

    Every time I subtract something, everything on one side of the object
    I subtracted is unified, and also everything on the other. Let's see
    if I can clarify that with a simple example.

    I have two cubes and one very thin plate that goes thru them. When I
    subtract that thin one, four objects are left. Two that were over the
    thin one, and two that were under it. Those two above act like I used
    union on them, also those two under.

    More importantly their layers are changed to currently selected one. I
    don't know why, sometimes separate works and sometimes doesn't. But
    their layers are changed anyway.

    Is this behavior controlled by some system variable?

    Thanks!
     
    the-trooper, May 5, 2004
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  2. the-trooper

    Trey Monsour Guest

    I know this wont help you, and really isn't on point, but I feel this is a
    good thread to mention it.

    The only time I model in acad now is when i absolutely have to. IE: drawing
    complex shapes with precision, building a simple model to check
    relationships of different parts of my buildings, etc. I stopped doing it
    mainly because after r12, the modelling "tools" became all but extinct.
    Nothing resembling parametrics, no real way to modify solid objects except
    by copying, slicing, subtracting, re-combining the chopped up pieces to get
    your "whole" object you were trying to create. Besides that, you really
    have to save all your little bits and pieces and "helpers" you make along
    the way so that if your part needs redesign, you dont have to basically
    start from scratch to re-create it.

    AFAIK, the only real improvements from release to release in acad solid
    modelling has been the accuracy and stability of the ACIS core... but that
    doesnt really do me any good when I dont want to need to use solids, or when
    I dont want to model in autocad because it's so cumbersome.

    With autocad being as powerful as it is, it just amazes me that there isn't
    as complete a set of solid modelling tools as there is 2D drafting tools.

    If nothing at all changed in the next 3 releases of acad other than bug
    fixes and the development of the modelling and rendering tools /
    environment, I think that would be one of the greatest strides taken in
    improving autocad in the history of the software.

    just my opinion, for what it's worth...
     
    Trey Monsour, May 7, 2004
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  3. the-trooper

    CW Guest

    Will not happen. Why would they add modeling tools when they have other
    products (Inventor and Architectural desktop) for that? AutoCAD was never
    meant to be a serious solid modeler and probably never will be. As to the
    ACIS engine, if they were serious about solid modeling, they would use a
    more recent version. AC 2002 used ACIS version 4 and I would bet 2004 uses
    the same. Version 13 is now available. The reason they stay with version 4
    is that solid modeling is not a priority and it's cheap. When you sell
    $500.00 software for over $3000.00, you can't afford to put any money into
    it.
     
    CW, May 8, 2004
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