which should i purchase solidworks 2004 or solidedge 14

Then why not get AutoCad and the IGES option?


well recently i got a dwg for mold i had to machine, and mastercam was
unable to create complex surfaces. So i think i need a good cad
package that can let me create complex parts or molds easily.

Can autocad do this?

 

Can autocad do this?

Nope. Surfacing in base AutoCAD sucks. It's
so bad that Rhino (www.rhino3d.com)
originally was planned as an AutoCAD add-in.

jon

 

Mastercam is a great cam package but i think it lacks in the cad department

Check the MasterCAM Forum. www.emastercam.com

If you search through the threads you will find that many MasterCAM users
purchase Rhino to handle their surfacing needs and feel like you
do that MasterCAM "lacks in the cad department when" one has "to create
complex surfaces."

jon

 

Perhaps because AutoCad is old, dull and expensive? And above all - it's

.....and if he does buy AutoCAD, he still does not get the surfacing he needs
!!!

Once again... why would anyone want to deal with Autodesk if they did not
have to. Based on what Adrian has posted, I see no reason that he has
to.

jon

 

Did you ask the people who gave you the dwg if they could give you the solid
or surfaces? I would think that translating the surfaces would be much
easier and higher quality than building them yourself.

Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems

 

Did you ask the people who gave you the dwg if they could give you the solid

Ofcourse i did, i would rather do "the least amount of work" that i
could possibly do. Unfortunately this specific client only has
autocad. And also we get the most amount of work from him.

One of our other clients has Pro/E, so all his part files are iges 3d
files, and much easier to work with since i just have to create the
toolpaths in mastercam.

 

"One of our other clients has Pro/E, so all his part files are iges 3d
files, and much easier to work with since i just have to create the
toolpaths in mastercam."

If you go with IronCAD they license the PTC Granite One kernel so
you don't have to go the IGES route. IGES is the least desirable way
to import anything.

Further, IronCAD has the best integration with Rhino of *any* CAD/CAM
package. Also from what I'm told IronCAD 7.0 will have major surfacing
capabilities added to it. On top of all this, IronCAD offers far better
editing of imported geometry and because of this IronCAD does not even
bother with a FeatureWorks type of product.

jon

 

And the best alternative must be STEP, not a tiny format as Granite One...

I don't agree and neither to many others.

http://www.ironcad.com/innovationsu...Style=InnovationSuite&Tagline=InnovationSuite

"We are excited about the new opportunities that supporting Granite offers
our customers," said Dr. Tao Yang Han, president, IronCAD, LLC. "We have
always felt as a company that the best way to truly provide interoperability
between different CAD systems is through native kernel support. With the
addition of Granite, we have moved one step closer to completing that
vision."

jon

 

Are you angry at him?

See alt.machines.cnc for details on patient 143c
and his long and troubled history. Look for posts
from Bill Roberto, Bottlebob, Tim Markoski, etc.
I'd go on but it's a long, long, long list.

jon

 

See alt.machines.cnc for details on patient 143c

the old saw about the pot calling the kettle black comes the mind...

 

the old saw about the pot calling the kettle black comes the mind...

Not with the case of patient 143c. This has been pointed out by
many others in alt.machines.cnc.

jon

 

Except the fact that it's MasterCam that creates the toolpaths, not

Care to explain why you feel that CNC Software (MasterCAM) has
licensed Granite One if STEP is really the best alternative ???

http://www.mastercam.com/camzone/newszone/GraniteOne.asp


jon

 

Face it, STEP is the standard...

Nope.

It's more like STEP wants to be *the* standard.

Irrelevant to this discussion. Read what "the Chinese guy"
said again. You have completely missed "the Chinese guy(s)"
point.

Here it is again:

"We have always felt as a company that the best way to truly
provide interoperability between different CAD systems is
through native kernel support. With the addition of Granite,
we have moved one step closer to completing that vision."

.....Dr. Tao Yang Han, president, IronCAD, LLC.



jon

 

STEP is standard, try to get that into your head...

When it comes to stuff like this I try and live in the
present and not the future.

STEP wants to be *the* standard but isn't yet
and I have serious doubts that STEP ever will be
*the* standard.

Perhaps the people who make Gibbs software feel the same
way at this point that I do in this regard because while they are
big on STEP and STEP NC Gibbs license...

ACIS
Granite One
Parasolid.

and are very proud of doing so.

:>)

jon

 

I'm not sure about your serious doubts as you probably may understand by

If these standards had any history of really working in the real world
perhaps I would be less doubtful.

Lets take the IGES standard... how well does the IGES standard work ?

I think "the Chinese guy" has got it right and so does much of
his product, IronCAD. IMO IronCAD can better handle what
really happens in the real world with non native data that needs to be
imported and easily modified compared to Solidworks one tool does
it all approach with FeatureWorks.

jon

 

Please don't compare IGES with STEP

Why not ?

IGES was suppose to be an industry standard....
how well did that work out ???

STEP is obviously not the industry standard yet or companies
like IronCAD, Gibbs, CNC Software, Ashlar, etc. would not bother
with licensing Granite One.

Why do *you* think that all these companies have licensed
Granite One ??? Do you think these companies like PTC and
feel bad that PTC is losing their ass ??? This, after years of PTC
trying to force their one tool history based solid only
model down eveyone's throats ??? :>)

How well did their "standard" work out ??? LOL

Most people want tools that work *now* and in the real world rather
than pie in the sky hopes for a better future based on a dismal past
of having blind faith in false gods... er I mean "standards". ;>)

"The Chinese guy" has got it right. Screw the "standards" at least for
now and go with what works until something better comes along that
proves itself...which is exactly what IronCAD does do and it
does it very well.

jon

 

Inch is a standard, how well does that work in Europe?

Millimeters is a standard. Why does the U.S. not fully use
this standard ?

Lots of things are important. AS can be just as, if not more
important, depending on the kind of work one does and who
they do it for.

jon

 

How any of these saying your beautiful made relate to solidworks?

You wisdum from the many message following:
"You are totally clueless, as usual."
"BTW, *I* don't care how you *feel*"
"YOU don't have a clue what a standard is."
"More of the usual BS?"
"How many places, exactly, are you banned from? For being
an idiot troll ..."
"Drooling moron."
"No clues here ... never in a thousand years ... "
"Ignore the idiot troll ...."

Please but now these many word are on you too.

No need answer habib - please to treat him better next around.

Ok please - it makes the all of us feeling bad to see it when you so nasty.

With The Love - habib.

 

It's because it still doesn't have all the features that SE and SW has