which feature do i need to run MSPS?

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by ponderboy, Apr 3, 2006.

  1. ponderboy

    ponderboy Guest

    After extracting pararistic elment such as R and C,I want to
    backanotation pararistic elment to schematic and do pararisric post
    simulation,but cdsdoc told me that i need a MSPS licnese to run,so
    could anyone tell me which feature or licnesedo i need to run MSPS?
     
    ponderboy, Apr 3, 2006
    #1
  2. I think no extra license feature is required to do that or it's included
    in the DFII or Assura features.

    But be aware you can not do a post layout simulation on
    your schematic with backannotated parasitics, this feature
    is just a viewing option, which gives the designer a idea where
    the parasitic elements are located in the schematic.
    There are additional parasitic report features as well just play around with the
    tool.


    For post layout simulation with parasitics you have to use
    your extracted or refined extracted view.


    Bernd
     
    Bernd Fischer, Apr 3, 2006
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  3. Correcting myself:

    To do a backannotation to your schematic I think you have to create a
    refined extracted view first.
    Therefore you need the feature 34510 "Analog Environment".

    Bernd
     
    Bernd Fischer, Apr 3, 2006
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  4. ponderboy

    fogh Guest

    Bernd ,
    are you 100% on that one ? IIRC have in 5.1 setups recently demo'ed to
    end users backanotation of C and L to schematic without creating an
    analog_extracted or running DCOP.
    I am under the impression that the various options of assura >3.0 RCX
    are more useful in refining/reducing than MSPS.

    Bernd Fischer
     
    fogh, Apr 3, 2006
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  5. You don't need to create an analog_extracted view first (i.e. a "build analog")
    to do the backannotation. You do however have to do a DC simulation of the
    extracted view in order to be able to backannotate the resistor values though
    (in older versions this was not necessary, but the resistor value was just the
    sum of all the resistors in that part of the parasitic network, which was of no
    use to man or beast).

    The main purpose of build analog is to allow selective parasitic inclusion,
    without needing to re-run the Assura RCX run again with the appropriate options
    to select just those nets. If you want to include all parasitics that Assura RCX
    produced, there's no need to do build analog. For Diva it does some additional
    housekeeping as well (sorts out globals, for example), so it may be needed there
    - also, Diva does not have any means of doing selective net extraction, so you'd
    have to do it via MSPS.

    As for licensing, there used to be a separate product for MSPS, but that got
    included in ADE (34510) since IC446 (i.e. since June 2000).

    Regards,

    Andrew.
     
    Andrew Beckett, Apr 4, 2006
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