What spec computer are YOU using with Solidworks?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by me, Apr 8, 2005.

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    me Guest

    I'm curious what most of you are using to run
    Solidworks on..... spec wise that is. But brand/model
    as well.

    I'm in market for new PC possibly to run Solidworks
    on.... hence the questions

    Thanks in advance!
     
    me, Apr 8, 2005
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    lcifers Guest

    You can find what SolidWorks recommends here:

    http://www.solidworks.com/pages/services/SystemRequirements.html?PID=252

    It's probably no surprise, but get the most performance you can. RAM,
    hard drive speed, bus width and speed - they can all make a difference
    depending on how demanding your files are.

    One thing to be careful of is video cards. Gaming cards do not work so
    well with SW. Using the link above you can also browse to test results
    with different video cards. The nVidia Quadro FX family works well, and
    is not outrageous in price.

    Cheers.

    - Luther
     
    lcifers, Apr 8, 2005
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    haulin79 Guest

    I recommend the dell outlet at
    www.dell.com/outlet

    I got a $2900 Precision 370 for $1800 at the outlet. Deals like this
    are the norm. They cost less than what you can build it for yourself
    and it comes with a warranty.
     
    haulin79, Apr 8, 2005
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    me Guest

    I got a $2900 Precision 370 for $1800 at the outlet

    Would it be better to go with a 470 even if only one
    cpu in it? That way you have an upgrade path that you
    don't have with single cpu 370?
     
    me, Apr 8, 2005
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    Michael Guest

    Well, SW says that dual processors don't offer significant performance
    increase, and that won't change at least thru SW2006. So I guess the answer
    depends on primarily on how long you intend to keep the machine. When I
    bought one last week, I went for the 370--I hope to have another new machine
    before SW gets any real benefit from dual processors
     
    Michael, Apr 8, 2005
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    haulin79 Guest

    I'm very much looking to the Pentium D processors in the next few
    months.
    http://www20.tomshardware.com/cpu/20050405/index.html

    I have a couple of programs that use the dual processors capabilities,
    like Photoshop and Geomagic. With the Pentium D with HyperThreading you
    get 4 logical processors! Yippie!!
     
    haulin79, Apr 9, 2005
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    P. Guest

    Here's the key statement from Tom's hardware:

    "In the past, noticeable performance gains have been achieved through
    the introduction of incrementally faster processors, but never before
    has the potential performance gain been as large as it is with dual
    core CPUs. Yet the potential can only be exploited with
    thread-optimized software - older, non-optimized programs will be
    executed only as fast as we are used to with current processors."

    My guess is that if Intel is going this way it will force vendors with
    ties to Intel (I am looking at a nifty Portfolio with Intel and SW
    stamped on it that was handed out at SWW.) to move in this direction.
    Due to this, my option for a really fast system now is a Tyan Thunder
    Mobo with a single Opteron 260. Why? It is fast today, will be faster
    if SW starts supporting dual processors/multi threading and will leave
    the option open for 64 bit and 16Gb of RAM. This setup isn't cheap. The
    mobo alone is a $400-500 item and the processor is $700+. But if and
    when SW really starts to support multi-tasking/threading the upgrade
    will only cost another $700+ for a major performance improvement and
    nothing if 64 bit is supported.
     
    P., Apr 9, 2005
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    P. Guest

    Asus Mobo
    AMD64 FX53
    Nvidia FX3000
    420W true power power supply
    Corsair water cooling system
    4Gb Corsair PC2700 ECC Registered memory
    WD 72Gb Raptor HDD

    The only gripe with it is that it is hard to find the special coolant
    for it. Corsair may be a good company, but they don't sell supplies.
     
    P., Apr 9, 2005
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    me Guest

    I'm very much looking to the Pentium D processors in the next few Yeah.....I've been kinda thinking I should just hold
    off a few more months before buying another PC so as to
    get dual core machine.

    What you think? Just wait?
     
    me, Apr 9, 2005
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    me Guest

    I'd go for the fastest single-core available. That's AMD's AthlonFX.
    Thanks for your advice Dale!!

    Question tho..... I'm not really into building my own
    machine so an advice on where to BUY a system with
    single core AthlonFX as you mentioned above?
     
    me, Apr 9, 2005
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    haulin79 Guest

    It's rarely worth the wait to hold off buying a faster computer. The
    reason is that prices are always highly performance to price
    correlated.

    In addition to the above, you might have to wait YEARS 'till SW is
    multithreaded in many areas.

    As an example, Geomagic, a high-end point cloud to nurbs converter, I
    have observed that only 2 of 30 or so tools are multithreaded, the rest
    are not sped up by my second processor.
     
    haulin79, Apr 10, 2005
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    haulin79 Guest

    I have not done specific reseach as you may have but watch out for
    those Opterons for CAD systems. In the March 2005 Cadalyst review, they
    mentioned a couple vendors pulling their Dual Opteron systems from the
    review because of poor performance. Cadalyst mentioned that the vendors
    are reseaching the problem but have not yet found a solution.
     
    haulin79, Apr 10, 2005
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    me Guest

    I'm not up on system vendors
    So ALL you own is laptops now days?

    If yes.... how is that working out for your personal
    needs and such.... i,e laptop only?
     
    me, Apr 10, 2005
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    me Guest

    It's rarely worth the wait to hold off buying a faster computer. The
    I see

    Hey guys just came across this new machine by eMachine.
    Has the new 64 bit Athlon in it. What you think of
    this for a low cost machine? see link

    http://tinyurl.com/425rp
     
    me, Apr 10, 2005
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    P. Guest

    The article mentioned dual Athlon processors, not Opterons.

    We did receive one system based on dual Athlon processors that was
    ultimately pulled from the review. This system, like two from the last
    review in November 2004 produced scores that were markedly lower than
    others in the review. For more information.
    Cadalyst, March 2005, Punch Up Your CAD Power-New Athlon,
    Pentium Systems Pay Off with Performance by Ron LaFon.
    http://management.cadalyst.com/cadman/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=151091&pageID=1&sk=&date=

    I also read the review from November 2004. The only dual processor
    system tested then was using Intel, not AMD. At the time LaFon made
    this comment about the "dual Intel 3.4GHz Xeon processor" system, " Not
    bad scores at all-just not as fast as some of the single-processor
    systems in this pack of fast systems."
    Cadalyst, November 2004, Extreme Speed-Six Workstations Push the
    Limits by Ron LaFon.
    http://management.cadalyst.com/cadman/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=133484&sk=&date=&pageID=2

    In one article he calls the scores "not bad" and in another he calls
    them "markedly lower". There are no specifics on what was actually
    pulled. Was it dual Athlons or dual Opterons? And I could only find one
    dual system in November. Did I miss something?

    Now if you search the newsgroup and the SW forum you will find specific
    test data on Opterons that show they are indeed very fast when running
    SW. The one Opteron I noticed in his article was a 150, not a 160.



    This could be anything including Athlon MPs .
     
    P., Apr 10, 2005
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    haulin79 Guest

    Oops, my bad, I didn't realize that there was such a thing as MP
    Athlons. I just assumed they were the same as Opterons since I have
    never seen a dual Opteron review in a CAD magazine. If you or someone
    you trust have done the benchmarks on the Opteron with SolidWorks then
    great! If not, I wouldn't risk $3000+ on a non-benchmarked workstation.
     
    haulin79, Apr 10, 2005
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    haulin79 Guest

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    me Guest

    I was very serious about getting this Opteron based Alienware but they
    Can I become one of your employees?! <G>
     
    me, Apr 10, 2005
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    P. Guest

    There is a lot of credible benchmark data on Opterons running SW. In
    fact HP makes one of the fastest machines around. I tend to shy away
    from benchmarks intended for AutoCAD when testing for SolidWorks. Try
    searching the web with these keywords:
    Opteron benchmark +SolidWorks
     
    P., Apr 11, 2005
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    Brian Guest

    I was told by my VAR techie, that it was explained to him, by SW, that
    SW will likely never benefit much from MP. The nature of the data dictates
    that one line of processing be completed so that its result can be passed on
    to the next line. So the 2 of 30 tools that Geomagic threads may be a
    similar number to what can be expected of SW mp capability.

    This is not necessarily the case for any of the SW add-ins. I also
    understand, for example, that some FEA software benefits greatly from mp.
    For an equivelant core clock speed the difference in SW performance may not
    be noticible, but the add-ins may be greatly effected by type, mp, ect of
    the processor. You might allow that to drive some of the decision making
    when building a system.

    As a side note, the die size of the 64 bit athlons is HUGE and allows
    for good heat dissipation. All of the Fx systems that I've been around (
    never operated one myself ) were deathly quiet compared to my Athlon xp at
    home, and much quieter than the P4 at work. For that reason alone, I'd like
    one myself.
     
    Brian, Apr 11, 2005
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