Weldments - any way to suppress internal hollows?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by cadcoke3, May 25, 2005.

  1. cadcoke3

    cadcoke3 Guest

    I am planning on using weldments quite extensively. I will be
    building structures using square tubing. Already, with what I consider
    to be a simple structure, I am noticing significant delay in opening a
    file. I am also running into challenges where I accidentally select
    one of the internal faces or edges of the square tubing.

    I figure the best solution to both of these issues is to suppress the
    internal hollow. I know I can do things to suppress fasteners, but
    haven't figured a way to suppress these internal hollows. If I had
    made a new component, I could choose a name for those features I would
    want to suppress. But, there doesn't seem to be any way to do this with
    weldments.

    Any ideas?

    Joe Dunfee
     
    cadcoke3, May 25, 2005
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  2. cadcoke3

    cadcoke3 Guest

    Thanks for the reply. I was unaware of the option to turn off
    selection of hidden edges... that will be a great help.


    Regarding supressing internal hollows of weldment tube, I wonder if I
    can play other tricks such as creating two different weldment profile
    directories. Then change the names of those folders when I wanted to
    switch between the detailed vs. simplified versions of the tubing.
    However, I suspect that once a particular profile is used, it is copied
    onto a new sketch on the drawing. So the original profile in the
    weldment profiles directory is never refered to again... meaning that
    this idea won't work.

    Perhaps this can be addressed through programming [Visual basic?]. I
    have never attempted to write any programs for SW, so perhaps you can
    guide me whether this is a simpl or complex programming task. Using my
    concept above of two sets of weldment profile directories, the VB
    program can search for each weldment profile sketch, then erase and
    insert the new profile. This ability may even already be partically
    available in SW because you can choose different size tubing even after
    you have created the weldment. The task is just one of automating the
    substitution.

    Joe Dunfee
     
    cadcoke3, May 26, 2005
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  3. cadcoke3

    cadcoke3 Guest

    If you're willing to make a new profile library (...
    Perhaps I am misunderstanding how the weldment feature uses its
    profile library. If I try to guess how the program is using it, I
    would think that the feature inserts the sketch into the part, and then
    uses the extrude feature by selecting the entire sketch (which defaults
    to creating a hollow). Therefore I don't have the option of using the
    weldment feature and making the hollow a separate feature from the boss
    extrude. Am I correct?

    Joe Dunfee
     
    cadcoke3, May 27, 2005
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  4. cadcoke3

    SWX-VAR-JP Guest

    You would not need to create another profile, you just need to edit the
    sketch of the weldment component and change the inner contour to
    construction geometry. This will make the part solid, then when you
    are ready to make it hollow again, you can change the segments back to
    sketch geometry.

    Jeff
     
    SWX-VAR-JP, May 27, 2005
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  5. cadcoke3

    cadcoke3 Guest

    Jeff wrote;

    Since it is common for my weldments to have over 100 pieces, it is
    important to change between the hollow and solid profiles
    automatically. If I am understanding both of your ideas correctly (and
    what SW can do) they are manual-only methods that wouldn't be pratical
    for me.

    However, you gave me an idea. If I can somehow label the internal
    profile so that VB can recognize them, then I can use a simple routine
    to convert them to construction geometry and back to regular lines when
    I want that. I imagine there is some sort of internal number assigned
    to each line, but to be consistant between different size profiles, I
    would want the same label. Perhaps I can just set all the internal
    profiles to be a specific color and use that information to identify
    what lines to convert to construction lines.

    Joe Dunfee
     
    cadcoke3, May 30, 2005
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  6. cadcoke3

    cadcoke3 Guest

    I am aware of the ability to create configurations using normal
    parts. However, this is using the weldment feature... I don't think it
    is possible to define a configuration in a profile template.

    In order to create the configurations you are refering to, I must
    edit each hollow individually to supress them and make them part of the
    configuration. The weldment feature has limitations that don't allow
    this to be automatically done as I create each weldment.

    Please correct me if I am wrong.

    Joe Dunfee
     
    cadcoke3, May 30, 2005
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