Weird thing with profiles in 2005

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by The Real JD, Mar 12, 2005.

  1. The Real JD

    The Real JD Guest

    why do i have the AutoCAD files for my user login in two places?


    C:\Documents and Settings\The Real JD\Local Settings\Application
    Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD 2005\R16.1\enu

    &

    C:\Documents and Settings\The Real JD\Application Data\Autodesk\AutoCAD
    2005\R16.1\enu

    The first one has all the templates & textures, the second has my support &
    plotters? Why are they seperate?
     
    The Real JD, Mar 12, 2005
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  2. The Real JD

    Walt Engle Guest

    The way autodesk has colluded with microsoft does these things. I still bristle
    with this and load ALL my software in separate directories in the root
    directory - including autocad. However, this doesn't stop autocad from loading
    things in the folder you mentioned - making everything a hassle.
     
    Walt Engle, Mar 12, 2005
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  3. The Real JD

    James Murphy Guest

    It's the only way AutoDesk could get the Microsoft stamp of approval. IOW to
    be in compliances with MS standards. Even if AutoDesk knows it's a pain for
    some people and overkill they had to set it up that way. I'm sure there are
    some folks out there that are ISO 9000 cert. and don't agree with every
    little trivial bit to be certified but go along with just to get that ISO
    9000 stamp of approval.

    Murph
     
    James Murphy, Mar 12, 2005
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  4. ClintonG? Is that you?
     
    Frank Oquendo, Mar 12, 2005
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  5. The Real JD

    James Murphy Guest

    Ouch.......

    Murph
     
    James Murphy, Mar 12, 2005
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  6. The Real JD

    Walt Engle Guest

    So what does "ClintonG" mean?
     
    Walt Engle, Mar 13, 2005
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  7. The Real JD

    Anne Brown Guest

    See Clinton Gallagher's posts in the CAD Manager group.
     
    Anne Brown, Mar 13, 2005
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  8. Frank, It's like Beetlejuice don't his name
    3 times....;-)
     
    Paul Richardson, Mar 15, 2005
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  9. As others have stated, it's Autodesk's particular interpretation of Microsoft's
    design guidelines for XP compliance which tries to dictate the differences
    between machine assets and user assets.

    Which is, as you've found out, pretty badly done.

    In general, the differences under Application Data and Local Settings are mostly
    related to Roaming Profiles. RPs part of a user's Domain account and are used in
    many networks, where the user's profile data (everything under \Documents and
    Settings\UserName) is copied back to a server upon logout and downloaded to the
    login machine, effectively enabling users to move to another computer and have
    their personal settings follow them.

    (The fact that the target machine may not have some or any of the applications
    installed on it has thus far escaped Microsoft's thinking on the matter)

    In particular, Application Data is the folder used for application data files
    (e.g., Outlook PSTs), but Local Settings is a folder used for data that is part
    of the user's profile but does NOT roam with the user on login/logout.

    The most common use for Local Settings are the \Temp and \Temporary Internet
    Files folders, where you don't want these copied to servers or other machines.
    It's interesting to note that the Local Settings folders used to roam with the
    profile (under NT 4.0), until IT managers complained to MS that copying 500MB of
    TEMP and IE cookies was pretty dopey.

    The Local Settings\Application Data folder is usually used (outside of Autodesk
    apps, that is) for caches or other files not deemed necessary (or too large) for
    replication.

    However, Autodesk is the only company I've seen which puts many mission-critical
    files under this folder tree by default. Since I moved most of these files to my
    server (e.g., plotters, plot styles) the folder remains pretty small.

    Matt

     
    Matt Stachoni, Mar 15, 2005
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