I use AutoCAD LT 2000i, in my work as a technical translator. This week I have a group of drawings that have presented some unique, uh, "challenges". They're all solved except for one: The title block has some things that I want to move around. Mainly, it's because some of the new Spanish text doesn't fit in the space given by the original title block. I can't simply explode the block, because it loses the attribute information (title, approved by, that sort of thing). So, a couple of years ago somebody on this group gave me this workaround, and I have done this many times: 1. WBLOCK the block to a file 2. Edit the file, move stuff around as needed 3. Back to the original drawing, run something this: -insert blockname=c:\path\blockname.dwg It asks if I want to redefine the block, I say yes, then it asks for an insert point. I hit escape to avoid inserting a block. Presto, the new block has what I want. It won't work with this group of drawings. Most of the time, it simply does nothing. Sometimes, I see an short error message, which I can't reproduce right now, something about a read/write error. I can do this with other blocks in the drawing, just not the title block. I also have an AutoLisp routine that will explode a block and retain all the attributes, but I would like to keep the block if I can before trying that. The only other thing about these drawings is that they have some proxy objects, but that has not presented any problem before. Maybe this time the title block includes a proxy object? Thanks. -- Steve M - (remove dirt and invalid to reply) It is criminal to steal a purse, daring to steal a fortune, a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases. -- Johan Christoph Friedrich von Schiller -- Steve M - (remove dirt and invalid to reply) It is criminal to steal a purse, daring to steal a fortune, a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases. -- Johan Christoph Friedrich von Schiller