Way to make dimensions non-associative

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Doug Broad, Dec 16, 2004.

  1. Doug Broad

    Doug Broad Guest

    Anyone have any opinions on how to make existing dimensions drawn
    with DIMASSOC=2, not associative with objects.

    Only thing I can think of is to have a command move the dimension(s)
    and then move them back. Any better ideas?

    Thanks.
     
    Doug Broad, Dec 16, 2004
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  2. Dimdisassociate
     
    Jason Piercey, Dec 16, 2004
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  3. Doug Broad

    Doug Broad Guest

    Thanks Jason. So simple.
     
    Doug Broad, Dec 16, 2004
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  4. I thought you'd like it.
     
    Jason Piercey, Dec 16, 2004
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  5. Doug Broad

    Walt Engle Guest

    Be aware that once your dimensions are not associated, you could have
    problems later.
     
    Walt Engle, Dec 16, 2004
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  6. What type of problems are you referring to?
     
    Jason Piercey, Dec 16, 2004
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  7. Doug Broad

    Doug Broad Guest

    Walt,
    Any problems would be less severe than I am currently experiencing.
    When I convert dimensioned lines to polylines, the associated
    dimensions completely screw up.

    Regards,
    Doug
     
    Doug Broad, Dec 16, 2004
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  8. oh yeah! You really have to watch how you
    modify any geometry that has associated dims.
     
    Jason Piercey, Dec 16, 2004
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  9. Doug Broad

    Walt Engle Guest

    In some cases, if you later want to reassociate dimensions with an object,
    it will not work. Just a precautionary thought.
     
    Walt Engle, Dec 16, 2004
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  10. Doug Broad

    Tom Smith Guest

    oh yeah! You really have to watch how you modify any geometry that has
    associated dims.

    Jason, that's the main reason we've avoided DIMASSOC=2. We use plain old
    DIMASSOC=1, or what I call the "objects formerly known as associative" ever
    since Acad started using the word, until they decided it meant something
    different.

    As an aside, sheesh, if they're still supporting old things like the mnu
    file and the SELECT command, you'd think they could keep their terminology
    straight when they add new functionality. How about super-associative?
    Associative plus?

    The weakness is that we're nearly always dimensioning to a point that
    represents a confluence of several lines or other other objects. There might
    be several endpoints, a midpoint, an intersection or two, and a quadrant
    that all happen at that point. Yet the dimension entity is only associated
    with one of the entities. Which one? I'd assume the last, but that doesn't
    seem to be predictable, and you won't know which "geometry" you're linking
    to when you place the dimension. So there's no predicing what's going to
    happen when you change any of the things that "might" be associated with the
    dimension.

    Our impression was, in some/many/most cases you're still going to need to
    manually adjust the dimension to do what you want, just as if DIMASSOC=1 --
    in any case you're going to have to pay close attention to see whether
    Acad's guess matched your intention -- so it's simpler to just skip the
    guessing game and take charge of the dimensions yourself. Maybe this will
    improve one day.
     
    Tom Smith, Dec 16, 2004
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  11. I struggled with them for quite some time before I
    got a good feel for how they react to any changes.

    I've since changed some of the ways I do things in
    hopes that the dimensions behave and for the most
    part they do.
     
    Jason Piercey, Dec 16, 2004
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