VXL placing cells/pcells off grid

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by Tim, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. Tim

    Tim Guest

    IC5141 - Solaris

    Hi ,

    Recently we have been having a problem with VXL placing cells off grid
    when performing a "Gen from Source" or "Update Components and Nets". We
    have not seen this before on this PDK which has been used on this and
    older Cadence versions.

    The designer has his layout grid set to 0.05 x 0.05 as a default
    ".cdsenv" but the cells are being placed on a 0.025 grid.

    Has anyone else had this problem or is there another variable that
    needs to be set to fix this?

    Thanks in Advance,
    Tim
     
    Tim, Jan 10, 2007
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  2. Tim

    vlsidesign Guest

    I am just a layout guy ... but for what it's worth, I have not seen
    this problem, but I do have problems when I move/flip
    ("Sideways/UpsideDown" from Move menu) in XL. I think it might have to
    do with the data-extents being used (sometimes you have text hanging
    off the end), or sometimes when moving vias and paths, the vias do
    weird things, not sure why. The workaround I do is to go out of XL
    mode, do my move or flip, etc. and then go back into XL.
     
    vlsidesign, Jan 12, 2007
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  3. Tim

    Tim Guest

    Thanks for the reply!

    We were looking into it more this morning and concluded that i could be
    happening while rotating with the mouse button during a move. I have
    done this numerous times with different VXL version and this is the
    first time we are seeing this behavior. We tried doing a "move
    relative" from the Move pop-up and it doesn't allow an off grid move.

    Another odd thing is that a group of cells were moved and rotated and
    only the cells were off grid the metal interconnect polygons stayed on
    grid.

    Thanks,
    Tim
     
    Tim, Jan 12, 2007
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  4. Tim

    Tim Guest

    I believe we solved the problem. If your layout is hierarcical and you
    edit in place into a lower cell and then do a pick from schematic the
    cell is placed off grid. The bounding box of the cell to be placed also
    shows at the cursor but is placed in a different location.

    The move flipped or rotated my also have this problem during edit in
    place. I have to look into this next.

    Tim
     
    Tim, Jan 12, 2007
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  5. Tim

    vlsidesign Guest

    I'll keep this in mind. Thank you for posting your findings.
     
    vlsidesign, Jan 16, 2007
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  6. Tim

    vlsidesign Guest

    By the way, I found out that there is an option on the "Move" popup
    menu, called "Constraint Assisted Control", if I select the button
    "ignore", I no longer have this offgrid problem, and the misc "weird"
    behavior.
     
    vlsidesign, Jan 26, 2007
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