R2005: After searching the NG, I still cannot understand how to move a GROUP Object with VL functions. Command: (setq grpl (dictsearch (namedobjdict) "ACAD_GROUP")) ((-1 . <Entity name: 7ef6dc68>) (0 . "DICTIONARY") (5 . "D") (102 . "{ACAD_REACTORS") (330 . <Entity name: 7ef6dc60>) (102 . "}") (330 . <Entity name: 7ef6dc60>) (100 . "AcDbDictionary") (280 . 0) (281 . 1) (3 . "TEST") (350 <Entity name: 7ef6b360>) (3 . "TESTCCC") (350 . <Entity name: 7ef6b3b0>)) Command: (setq ngnm (dictsearch (cdr (assoc -1 grpl)) "TESTCCC")) ((-1 . <Entity name: 7ef6b3b0>) (0 . "GROUP") (5 . "21E") (102 . "{ACAD_REACTORS") (330 . <Entity name: 7ef6dc68>) (102 . "}") (330 . <Entity name: 7ef6dc68>) (100 . "AcDbGroup") (300 . "Part") (70 . 0) (71 . 1) (340 . <Entity name: 7ef6b3a0>) (340 . <Entity name: 7ef6b3a8>)) Command: (setq GrpObj (vlax-ename->vla-object (cdr (assoc -1 ngnm)))) #<VLA-OBJECT IAcadGroup 010a0be4> Command: (vla-move GrpObj (vlax-3d-point (getpoint))(vlax-3d-point (getpoint))) ; error: ActiveX Server returned the error: unknown name: Move TIA Bill