VBA Training Book

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by cmawson, Aug 13, 2004.

  1. cmawson

    cmawson Guest

    Hia,

    Can anyone recommend a good AutoCAD VBA training manual for someone with no VBA skills. I have no previous knowledge of VBA programming but am keen to broaden my skills.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Regards

    Chris
     
    cmawson, Aug 13, 2004
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  2. cmawson

    Joe Sutphin Guest

    Joe Sutphin, Aug 13, 2004
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  3. cmawson

    TomD Guest

    I'll second Joe's suggestion. ;)

    IMO, Joe's books are excellent. I have one by Bill Kramer which seems
    geared more towards those with a bit of general programming experience and
    is not nearly as extensive a reference as Joe's.

    I also have a borrowed copy of one by Jerry Winters, which I'd also
    recommend.
     
    TomD, Aug 13, 2004
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  4. cmawson

    bcoward Guest

    read Andrew Roe's book "Using Visual Basic with AutoCAD" first (yeas valid for VBA because of the foundation concept).

    Then, throw it out and Get Joe Sutphin's material. Read both his books if possible. I obtained Joe's latest 2004 material from ecampus.com for $27.

    Other than that...read th Autodesk VBA help manual.

    Good luck,

    Bob Coward
    CADS, Inc

    800-366-0946
     
    bcoward, Aug 13, 2004
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  5. cmawson

    Guido Rooms Guest

    Yes, Right!

    And and when cmawson has broadened the skills a bit, it's going to be VSA in
    stead of VBA.
    And if the relation between VSA and VBA is like the relation between VB and
    VB.NET, he'll
    have some more broadening to do...

    Why don't you tell him to learn lisp. At least in that case you can be surte
    it's dead as disco was ten years ago.

    Come on mister Sutphin. Why not start writing poetry? I'll buy a copy.

    Greetings.
     
    Guido Rooms, Aug 13, 2004
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  6. cmawson

    Guido Rooms Guest

    Just use developer help. And that's it.
    There's no need to spend money on something which contains far less.

    Greetings.

    valid for VBA because of the foundation concept).
    possible. I obtained Joe's latest 2004 material from ecampus.com for $27.
     
    Guido Rooms, Aug 13, 2004
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  7. cmawson

    Joe Sutphin Guest

    Guido,

    I'm sorry you feel my books have not provided much beyond the standard help
    files.

    As for VSA [whatever that is] vs. VBA and AutoCAD, I wouldn't hold my
    breath. An idea introduced in 2001 that has shown no signs of ever coming to
    life. I believe that for the forseeable future, if not VBA you'll be looking
    at COM Interop wrappers around non-.NET code.

    Also, you mentioned AutoLISP [VisualLISP] as a possible option. I wouldn't
    necessarily discard it either as many have attempted to do on various
    Autodesk newsgroups. It has merits, the question boils down to what the
    developer needs to accomplish a specific task and what resources they have
    available and/or are willing/able to use.

    Poetry? Hmm, now there's a thought!

    Joe
    --
     
    Joe Sutphin, Aug 13, 2004
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  8. cmawson

    bcoward Guest

    Can you define "far less" and it's impact on a newbie? I think that would really help a newbie understand why such a book is below them in your opinion.

    Thanks

    Bob
     
    bcoward, Aug 13, 2004
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  9. cmawson

    Guido Rooms Guest

    I bought the one for AutoCAD 2000 (I think) and I certainly did not like it.
    I threw it away.
    By VSA I mean Visual Studio for Applications. At least, that's what I'm
    being told.
    Ok! That's your opinion. I say that Lisp Is Dead As Disco (LIDAD)
    I mention "AutoLISP" and not "VisualLISP" because the term "Visual" is not
    applicable.
    What's so "Visual" about Visual Lisp then? That you can actually see what
    you type in the editor?
    Edlin could do that, too.
    As soon as you have your debut ready, be it verse or worse, just let me
    know.
    If it's good, I'm going to learn it by heart. Just imagine, people citing
    from Sutphin!
    Big Smile.

    Greetings.
     
    Guido Rooms, Aug 13, 2004
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  10. cmawson

    Guido Rooms Guest

    Sorry, I cannot define "far less". It's a "rather" fuzzy concept.

    Greetings.

    really help a newbie understand why such a book is below them in your
    opinion.
     
    Guido Rooms, Aug 13, 2004
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    Joe Sutphin Guest

    I know what VSA stands for, it's just not going to happen anytime soon [if
    ever].

    It's too bad you threw your copy of my book away, I hear it's worth twice
    what you paid for it!

    I'm claim to fame do you have besides newsgroup heckling? Hmm ...

    Joe
    --

     
    Joe Sutphin, Aug 13, 2004
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  12. cmawson

    Guido Rooms Guest

    I'm claim to fame do you have besides newsgroup heckling? Hmm ...

    Sorry Joe, I don't understand this.
    English is not my native language.
    Could you explain, please?

    Greetings.
     
    Guido Rooms, Aug 13, 2004
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  13. Hi,

    I agree 100%, except that I still like Andrew's book. For a new comer to
    VBA and AutoCAD I believe it is the best starting point by a long way.

    Joe's books are more in the form of a manual for someone who has already got
    started.and the general clarity of the setout by the publisher does not
    match Andrew's book.

    Don't take any notice of the personal attacks on Joe by the ignoramus who
    hides behind the "No speaka d'Engleesh".banner.

    --


    Laurie Comerford
    CADApps
    www.cadapps.com.au


    valid for VBA because of the foundation concept).
    possible. I obtained Joe's latest 2004 material from ecampus.com for $27.
     
    Laurie Comerford, Aug 14, 2004
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  14. cmawson

    Joe Sutphin Guest

    What instead of I'm ... do you understand that?

    I don't think it's the language barrier as much as the comprehension!
     
    Joe Sutphin, Aug 16, 2004
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  15. Some of us actually use this site to get help...Stop wasting our time
    moron...I am jealous that I haven't written a book also..I just don't take
    it out on someone that has...

    Paul...(I'd hide too, but Paul is shorter to type)
     
    Paul Richardson, Aug 16, 2004
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  16. No offense intended to the other authors but my favorite (and I looked
    at them all) is still Jerry Winters book.
    I highly recommend it.
     
    Mark Johnston, Aug 20, 2004
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  17. Haven't heard of that one Tks, Might as well have them all...Between this
    site and "Help" menus actually offering programmer help these days....don't
    use books as much as I used to.

    Did pull "Suptin's" off the shelf the other day though...Still had the
    pages I needed memorized....I like a no bs book....tks Joe..
    no VBA skills. I have no previous knowledge of VBA programming but am keen
    to broaden my skills.
     
    Paul Richardson, Aug 20, 2004
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  18. Joe, If your not too busy....A nice .NET book would be helpful...|:{}
    Please cover all disciplins...ha..
     
    Paul Richardson, Aug 20, 2004
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    JavaAndC# Guest

    If you know of any current or up-and-coming .Net (C#), references for AutoCAD I would definitely like to hear about.

    Thank you
     
    JavaAndC#, Aug 20, 2004
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  20. cmawson

    Joe Sutphin Guest

    Paul,

    Glad I can still help.

    Joe
    --

     
    Joe Sutphin, Aug 23, 2004
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