I have just recently been attempting to get 2004 up and running. Getting the menus migrated over has been a problem and a half, (preferred the smiley faces to the ?). In fact, the menu customization routines in 2004 appear to quite unstable and have crashed several times this morning alone. Question: When I start porting my vb routines from 2000 to 2004 will I run into a big problem with my functions that modify the menus on the fly? Has anyone had much of a problem jumping to 2004 with their vb routines? At the current time my VB routines only work with the pulldowns, but I would like to start incorporating toolbars that would also be modified by a routine. Tom Craft