V8 file format & global origin

Discussion in 'Microstation' started by mtbxc, May 27, 2005.

  1. mtbxc

    mtbxc Guest

    Hi,

    We are currently performing testing for the V7 to V8 upgrade
    (finally!!) Looking at files that were migrated from V7 to V8, they
    have retained the exact same global origin values, which I guess is a
    good thing. My GO=$ values are GO=1147483,-10852516. However, if the GO
    is still the distance from 0,0 to the lower left corner of the design
    plane, this means that coordinate 0,0 is off the design plane. This
    does not appear to be the case though, as I hvae modeled in this design
    file to coordinates 0,0 without a problem.

    Question 1 - is the GO just retained for backward compatibilty and for
    aligning reference file attachments?

    Question 2, depending on answer to #1, how do you determine the MinX,
    MinY, MaxX MaxY values of a V8 design plane (Or even just the centroid,
    since I have the Working Area size from the Design Settings)? For V7,
    there was this nifty calculator online
    http://www.geocities.com/tshoemaker/.

    Thanks for any insight,

    -Scott
     
    mtbxc, May 27, 2005
    #1
  2. mtbxc

    Ralph Hertle Guest

    Scott:


    The MSTN V7 design plane/volume that is made of a predetermined fixed
    number of location points is not the same in V8. My understanding of the
    size of the 3D plane/volume of a V8 design file is a result of the range
    of sizes in scientific notation that may be entered to locate data points.

    MSTN can record location numbers for each location of xyz coordinates in
    the following format:

    The number itself may be of 99 digits, and it may have a decimal point
    and be signed +/-. The number may also be raised to a power. The number
    of the power may be of 99 digits, and it may have a decimal point and be
    signed +/-. (I don't know if the decimal point and sign use up 2 of the
    99 digits.)

    These numbers can be placed as X,Y,Z values to represent selected locations.

    That means that in the same drawing gigantic celestial objects may be
    drawn at a precision that can also be used to draw subatomic sized
    objects - all with no reduction of the size of the design plane/volume
    or the accuracy of precision.

    You can still relocate the GO and WO values - as long as the numbers
    used have a number of digits that is smaller than the limiting number
    format. (All demonstrated numbers are particular and finite.)

    Placing the GO in the max corner of the design volume would mean that it
    is really far away, numerically speaking. Of course, if it is set to be
    GO=0,0,0 the huge max volume would be eight times the size.

    V8 will be very useful in geodesically mapping the Moon with great
    precision, or in simultaneously designing nano widgets.

    Ralph Hertle
     
    Ralph Hertle, Oct 16, 2005
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