Using PDF files in MicroStation

Discussion in 'Microstation' started by Roger, Jul 17, 2003.

  1. Roger

    Roger Guest

    I have a client that has scanned old mylar drawings to PDF's. Now they
    want us to import the PDF into a MicroStation drawing and draw new
    work on top of it.

    I think mappers do this all the time but I am having NO LUCK. Any
    suggestions on how to effectively do this?

    Thanks,
    Rog
     
    Roger, Jul 17, 2003
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  2. .....I don't know of any way to either import or attach a PDF to a DGN.
    Anyone else out there?

    ~Inga
     
    Inga Morozoff [Bentley], Jul 17, 2003
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  3. Can viewcompanion convert PDF to DWG-

    I have converted a scanned image to plot file, and then from plot file to
    dwg and then ustn. you do not get
    straight lines, but horizontal ones representing the rasterised vectors, the
    files are massive but it does work
    (bugger to edit though- you have to keep using the fence tool)
     
    Anthony and Kirsty, Jul 18, 2003
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  4. Roger

    William Few Guest

    Hamstra, where are you? GNU stuff should be right up your alley.

    If all you want is something to trace over why don't you convert your
    PDF's to a bitmap format that ustn likes?

    If you want a raster format you can try this:
    http://www.pstoedit.net/pstoedit

    I have no idea how well the vector conversions work, and
    it will probably be slightly painful to set up. However, if it works
    **anywhere** near as well as Ghostscript does creating PDF files you
    will be pleased.

    BTW, the price is right... zero USD.

    FWIW, I convert "other cad" postscript files using Ghostscript driven
    by a batch file on a regular basis...so it's probable that a batch
    file can drive this puppy for raster to vector conversions too. If
    this doesn't work then GS View is painless, but not as fast. GS View
    is free too.

    William Few

    P.S. If anyone plays with this ... please post your results. Thanks.
     
    William Few, Jul 18, 2003
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  5. Roger

    Mark Hamstra Guest

    Right, it is.
    If preserving image fidelity is more important than editability, then
    this is probably the best approach.
    pstoedit works, but it can be pretty fussy about the format of what is
    fed into it. That's probably more of a problem with Postscript than
    PDF, but even with PDF I wouldn't say pstoedit is a sure bet --
    depends somewhat on the quality of the software that generated the PDF
    in the first place. However, almost all of the output formats that
    pstoedit supports aren't usable within MicroStation. Probably the
    best bet is DXF, but image quality will suffer (especially for things
    like line weights, text, etc.) The basic problem is that you are
    going from a more capable format in terms of image quality (PDF) to a
    lesser format (DXF). It can't work losslessly.

    But it ain't hard for a CAD programmer to setup :).

    Mark
     
    Mark Hamstra, Jul 18, 2003
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  6. Roger

    Jon Summers Guest

    Robert ...
    PDF describes 2D geometry in one format (PostScript) while the plotfile
    describes 2D geometry in the HP graphics language. The question you want
    answered is this: "Has anyone written a converter whose input is vector
    format X and whose output is vector format Y? (where you substitute any two
    vector formats for X and Y)"

    There's no obvious reason why anyone would write such a converter: plot
    files inevitably have less content than the application that created them.
    It's only in rare circumstances that the original application is unavailable
    and you must contemplate this less than optimal route. You may be 'lucky'
    and find that there's a freeware tool somewhere to accomplish this task. To
    find such a converter, you must search the web.
     
    Jon Summers, Jul 21, 2003
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  7. Roger

    Mark Hamstra Guest

    pstoedit will do it.
     
    Mark Hamstra, Jul 21, 2003
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  8. Roger

    Roger Guest

    Thanks for all the input! I ended up converting the PDF's to Tiff's
    and doing a raster reference attachment. This worked great for what I
    was needing to do and since the client wants PDF's of the files back,
    I can loose the Tiff's when I issue the package.

    Tip: I attached the Tiff with a color that faded when plotted. This
    made for a nice readable background while allowing the new work to be
    drawn as bold on top of the file.
     
    Roger, Jul 23, 2003
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