Using AutoCAD or Inventor on a Mac

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by George Hobart, Dec 13, 2003.

  1. Does anyone have direct experience using AutoCAD and/or Inventor on a
    Mac.
    I am at a new company where they are trying to use Mac only. I have
    heard that 2002 works within the G4 PC emulator. Can anyone verify
    that and does anyone have experience with AutoCAD 2002? I would be
    interested in any engineering CAD software for the Mac also.

     
    George Hobart, Dec 13, 2003
    #1
  2. Norbert Grund, Dec 13, 2003
    #2
  3. When the CAD software starts with the prefix "ARCHI" I have to assume
    that they have no attachments to FEA or a Fluid dynamic analysis
    program. I guess many people think of Architechural work as
    engineering. For the most part it is interior design.
    I am having a great deal of difficulty finding an Engineering CAD
    program that runs on the MAC. I am finding that the MAC software is
    more concerned with helping the interior designer select the right
    color. I am color blind and do not care at all about colors. Steel
    has the same color as Nickel and Aluminum. Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Air,
    and Oxygen all look the same. It is the properties that make them
    different.
     
    George Hobart, Dec 14, 2003
    #3
  4. Sorry to ruin your understanding, but we (architects) also design the
    exterior of buildings... in fact the whole building. We are not interior
    designers. That is a very different discipline. Architects are capable of,
    and required to, perform all the functions of an engineer (in the building
    industry disciplines). We do however, sometimes, subcontract out the
    engineering (structural, mechanical, electrical, civil, etc.) to specialists
    (consulting engineers). Architecture is both "art and science." Please
    excuse my rant.

    --
    Daniel J. Altamura, R.A.
    Altamura Architectural Consulting
    and SoftWorx, Autodesk Authorized Developer
    -----------------------------------------------------------------


    When the CAD software starts with the prefix "ARCHI" I have to assume
    that they have no attachments to FEA or a Fluid dynamic analysis
    program. I guess many people think of Architechural work as
    engineering. For the most part it is interior design.
    I am having a great deal of difficulty finding an Engineering CAD
    program that runs on the MAC. I am finding that the MAC software is
    more concerned with helping the interior designer select the right
    color. I am color blind and do not care at all about colors. Steel
    has the same color as Nickel and Aluminum. Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Air,
    and Oxygen all look the same. It is the properties that make them
    different.[/QUOTE]
     
    Daniel J. Altamura, R.A., Dec 14, 2003
    #4
  5. Don't worry, I understand how emotional you people get. Go ahead and
    rant, It must be very difficult for you to try to do a calculations
    without all the mathematical tools of an engineer. I bet those art
    history classes really came in handy when doing the engineering work.
    If you do not have a P.E. or an engineering degree you are not an
    engineer, you are just an interior designer dancing around pretending
    you know something. Didn't ruin my day at all.
     
    George Hobart, Dec 15, 2003
    #5
  6. I don't claim to be an engineer. I do however possess the mathematical
    tools required to design the entire building. Engineers do NOT design
    buildings... architects do. I had one art history class and dozens of
    "engineering" classes. I don't have a P.E. because I have an R.A., which is
    just as difficult to obtain... believe me. I don't know anything about
    interior design, because that is NOT my profession. I didn't mean to offend
    you. However, you have done so to me and all the others who share my noble
    profession. Please do not speak about that which you obviously know nothing
    about.
     
    Daniel J. Altamura, R.A., Dec 15, 2003
    #6
  7. Dan, thanks for the dialog but you seem to be missing the boat on what
    this dialog is all about. There are other disciplines of Engineering
    besides civil. There are many other things that have to be
    manufactured/ built besides buildings. Like I stated a while back
    Architecture is not Engineering. You just stated that. Architechs
    are Artists technically educated in a specific field. But they do not
    do engineering. Using the P.E. license on a building is only one use
    for it. But your R.A. only has one purpose in manufacturing
    buildings. If an Engineer were to use an Architechs CAD program,
    he/she would be tieing both hands behind his/her back.
     
    George Hobart, Dec 15, 2003
    #7
  8. Actually, the dialog is about any experiences using autocad or inventor on a
    Mac.
     
    Terence McClellan, Dec 16, 2003
    #8
  9. Terence; This was my original post. Please read paragraph as a whole.

    Does anyone have direct experience using AutoCAD and/or Inventor on a
    Mac. I am at a new company where they are trying to use Mac only. I have
    heard that 2002 works within the G4 PC emulator. Can anyone verify
    that and does anyone have experience with AutoCAD 2002? I would be
    interested in any engineering CAD software for the Mac also.

     
    George Hobart, Dec 16, 2003
    #9
  10. I assume that nobody uses AC or Inventor f. Windows in connection with
    a slow emulator (what about OpenGL, what about copy protection) on a
    Mac in a professional surrounding, besides maybe some conversion
    issues. Buy a PC if you wanna do some real, hardcore work and not only
    launching the app...

    For engineering CAD software on a Mac still check the Apple Software
    Guide, am shure that there's not only architectural related stuff. For
    e.g. 3D stuff you may want to check new Concepts Unlimited at:
    http://www.concepts3d.com

    No FEA nor Fluid Dynamic Analysis which probably needs for prof.
    purposes in general and also under Windoze a separate, dedicated app.
    as e.g. MSC/Nastran etc. .. besides maybe some HighEnd CAx apps.

    Learn to quote, thx.

    N.
     
    Norbert Grund, Dec 17, 2003
    #10
  11. As a follow up to my original posting I have an update on the status
    of AutoCAD on a Mac. Thanks to all of you who contributed to the
    dialog, especially the the Archy-types, they were a great source of
    entertainment.

    Being new to the Mac it took me a few minutes to find my way around
    the "pretty colors" on the Mac screen and load the XP emulator. I
    then took an older version of AutoCAD 14 (a very stable and slim
    version of AutoCAD in my opinion) and loaded it on the Mac. This Mac
    machine is dual processor G-4 with 2 Gig of RAM. I am comparing the
    speed of this AutoCAD installation to my lap top, and this Mac-AutoCAD
    (No Fries with that) version runs slightly faster then my laptop. My
    laptop is a P-2, 266 MHz. My perspection may be off when making this
    comparison since I am not used to the rhythm of the Mac just yet. I
    will follow through with additional posts on later AutoCAD versions.

    George Hobart
     
    George Hobart, Dec 30, 2003
    #11
  12. George Hobart

    CW Guest

    Architect defined: advanced boxmaker.


     
    CW, Dec 30, 2003
    #12
  13. For my own personal choice of CAD hardware, I would use an AMD CPU
    loaded with RAM and RAID controled hard drives, that I have built and
    will maintain. This would give the most bang for the buck in my
    opinion. My office however, wants to try something that has a lot of
    merit.

    They do not want to have a computer support department that for every
    20 computer users they would have one I.S. staff member. I have seen
    in many companies the I.S. department forgets that they are support
    for the work being done and not the work itself. The I.S. department
    starts to demand what software and hardware is to be used and upper
    management because of it's ignorance listens to them.

    A company either manufactures, designs, or sells it's information in
    the form of engineering or intellectual property. The engineering
    staff contributes to the end product by designs or R&D. The I.S.
    department is a support of the engineering department and other
    computer users.

    So far we are a small company of about 30 people. We are all using
    Macs.
    Most have less experience with computers then I do. But with the Macs
    it is easy for them to do many things that if they were on a PC they
    would have to rely on the I.S. personel. If there is a hardware
    problem with the computer, they send it out. If there is a software
    problem it is solved very easily with the personel in the office. The
    biggest problem so far has been finding an engineering software to run
    on the MAC. This is what has brought me to begin these postings to
    find engineering software that runs on the MAC.

    George Hobart
     
    George Hobart, Dec 31, 2003
    #13
Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.