Used copies of Solidworks

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Pat, Oct 19, 2005.

  1. Pat

    Pat Guest

    I occasionally see used copies of Solidworks for sale on eBay, apparently
    full versions with original CDs with product key.

    Are these legitimate? Does having the CD's with a legitimate product key
    actually give one the right (or license) to use the software? I suspect
    not, as the prices these sell for are usually quite low.

    Thanks for any info.
     
    Pat, Oct 19, 2005
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  2. Pat

    Bonobo Guest

    Call your closest SWks VAR and ask, and then pull your ear away from
    the earpiece a bit.

    Bo
     
    Bonobo, Oct 19, 2005
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  3. I would say there is a problem if you cannot sell something you own.
    I don't understand if I bought a $5k product that I did not use
    anymore, why I would not be able to legitimitly sell it.
    I know of a company that folded that had a Solidworks seat and it was
    non-transferrable.
    This is ridiculus. Ford would love to have this horsepoop with their
    cars, just think how their new sales would be impacted if you could not
    license a used Ford?
     
    friendlyfreeriders, Oct 19, 2005
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  4. Pat

    HumanAmp Guest

    Isn't there a legitimate way of transfering software by selling the
    hardware it runs on too ie PC with SW licence ? (or I s'pose pushing
    this point - the hard drive).

    In the UK, I've seen this done when companies close.
    But obviously VAR's would prefer to collect as much new $$ as poss ;-)
     
    HumanAmp, Oct 19, 2005
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  5. Pat

    IYM Guest

    I think the way they look at it (not that I agree) is that the answer is
    yes, that you can sell the software that you spent $5K on....No problem!
    Just as you can sell your used Ford. They have the problem with you selling
    the software license...That would be like selling your used Ford, AND your
    driver's license to someone and saying it was ok for them to drive that car
    because they had your personal driver's license.... Again, this is how I
    think they look at it in layman's terms. I wonder if they could make it
    like a transferable registration similar to the way MS takes care of
    Windows?...They don't care where or who uses the product, as long as you let
    them know (more or less) SWx could do something like that, where a 10 day
    lockout will happen if you don't register or something to that
    effect.....It's just a thought off the top of my head first thing in the
    morning, so I'm most likely missing something - so be gentle with the
    flames......

    Scott
     
    IYM, Oct 19, 2005
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  6. Pat

    Pat Guest

    So a SW license is non-transferable, even if you are the original license
    owner? Are you sure? I ask, because a while back I saw an actual SW
    license for sale on eBay. In that case, the person was asking quite a bit
    more for it and the deal looked legit. Perhaps it's the case where the sale
    (or transfer) has to be approved by SW first. I'd be surprised if they
    outright barred it in all cases. As you indicated, that's quite an
    investment to have to write off if, for whatever reason, you decide you
    don't need it anymore.

    I was guessing that the people selling SW CD's on eBay (for a low price)
    don't actually own the license (and therefore can't transfer it).

    Anyway, thanks for the reply.
     
    Pat, Oct 19, 2005
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  7. Pat

    Sporkman Guest

    Unfortunately it IS the case that many software companies say that you
    don't really own the license. Micro$oft is one of those, as well as
    SolidWorks and most of the other CAD companies. It's tantamount to
    saying that you give them money so that you have the right to use the
    software, and that you can't transfer that right without their
    agreement. I have heard, however, that SolidWorks Corp will agree to
    license transfers in certain exceptional situations, like when a company
    is bought out by another company. I thought I remembered that in
    bankruptcies the license might be transferrable as an asset to a
    creditor, but I'm not sure about that. I rather doubt that it's
    transferrable at a liquidation (auction, or similar). Basically,
    SolidWorks Corp has to approve it in advance, and they're going to be
    picky. Without much doubt, eBay auctions don't qualify.

    'Sporky'
     
    Sporkman, Oct 19, 2005
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  8. Pat

    Sporkman Guest

    And they called Bill Clinton "Slick Willy".
     
    Sporkman, Oct 19, 2005
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  9. You don't own it. You're paying a license fee to use it. Sort of like
    opening a McDonald's. You can own a restaurant but you have to pay
    licensing to use the McD logo etc.
     
    rockstarwallyMYAPPENDIX, Oct 19, 2005
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  10. no. You can sell the company that has the license and the license
    should go with it but the computer it's installed on is irrelevant.
     
    rockstarwallyMYAPPENDIX, Oct 19, 2005
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  11. Pat

    FrankW Guest

    It's flippin B.S. to me
    If you pay for a "licence" to use the S/W
    You should also be able to sell the "license" if you want to
    I'm sure a Mcdonald's franchise is transferrable/sellable
     
    FrankW, Oct 19, 2005
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  12. Pat

    Guest Guest

    You don't own the software. You pay for the right to use it as defined
    in the license agreement. Because you don't own it you cannot sell it.
    However you can transfer the license as defined in the license
    agreement. Copyright is the law the basically locks the software down,
    readup on title 17 of the United States Code.
     
    Guest, Oct 19, 2005
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  13. A McDonald's licence would be transferable only in the sense that a
    franchise like that pays ongoing fees as opposed to a one time
    purchase. You can lay out the money once to SolidWorks if you want and
    never pay maint. You've paid 100% of your license to use as long as you
    want. If you want subsequent versions you need to renew maint. If
    someone else wants to use it they need to pay for a licence too. I
    really don't see what's "flippin BS" about it.

    What do you expect SW to do? They're in business to make money like
    you. Either suck it up or find a cheaper CAD package, one who's licence
    agreement is within your budget and provides what you think is value
    for the cost.

    Look at it this way. The EULA is a contract. You're engaging in a
    contract with SW. You pay them money, they provide you with software to
    use within certain limitations. You're not buying anything except a
    service.
     
    rockstarwallyMYAPPENDIX, Oct 19, 2005
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  14. Pat

    Cliff Guest

    If you sell your car does the licence to operate it or it's tags go
    with it?
    But in this case, you do NOT own the software .... only a
    right to use it for a specific purpose at a specific place or firm.
    Per your agreement when you "bought" it.

    HTH
     
    Cliff, Oct 20, 2005
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  15. Pat

    Cliff Guest

    Don't bet on it.
     
    Cliff, Oct 20, 2005
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  16. Doesn't matter if I'm only going to drive the car on my own property.
     
    Kelo Disaster, Oct 20, 2005
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  17. Pat

    Cliff Guest

    I assume you did not sell it .....
     
    Cliff, Oct 20, 2005
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  18. Pat

    FrankW Guest

    O.K if you buy a used license and plan to buy maintenance.
    Is that acceptable for you? I think the problem is that you can
    sell the licence but Solidworks won't reconize it and won't allow you to
    buy maintenance for it or upgrade.
    I happen to love Solidworks and have no problems with it. Bugs and all.
    And as much, as the Boss hates it, I insist on buying maintenance
    Solidworks needs to mature a lot more yet.
    Who the **** are you anyway? Shit I hate people who hide behind hotmail.
     
    FrankW, Oct 20, 2005
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  19. FrankW, that last line is an unreasonable response to my comment.
    Can you post your home phone number and address for me?
     
    friendlyfreeriders, Oct 20, 2005
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  20. Pat

    FrankW Guest

    Remove mxz to reply
     
    FrankW, Oct 20, 2005
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