Useability of PDM Works - comment invited

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Flynt, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. Flynt

    Flynt Guest

    Hi all,

    We are about to embark on using PDM Works. Before we jump can I invite
    feedback please from existing users. How useful do you find it? Is it
    much of a burden in respect of time? What benefits do you think it
    brings? What about server requirements i.e. vault space? Any further
    comments of course invited!

    Thanks
     
    Flynt, Oct 27, 2005
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  2. Flynt

    matt Guest

    PDMW is pretty easy to use, and doesn't require a lot of maintenance
    overhead. Part of the reason for that is that it doesn't use a real
    database, it's a system of flat text files where the information is
    stored. The advantage of that is that you don't need separate licenses
    of Access, Oracle, Fox Pro, etc or even a database administrator. It's
    meant to be administered by a user.

    Disk space depends on how you set it up, how much you use it and how big
    your files are. Each revision is stored as a separate file, and there
    are settings that duplicate the latest versions, and ways of saving
    incremental revisions which can cause vault size to balloon. It also
    depends on how much existing or legacy data you want to bring into the
    vault.

    Disk space is cheap unless you get carried away with a raid array.
    Backup is of course recommended. Moving the vault later is easy to do
    without a PhD in computer science. Average working vaults go between
    20-50 Gb.

    Good Luck,

    Matt
    www.dezignstuff.com
     
    matt, Oct 27, 2005
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  3. Flynt

    pete Guest

    Hi Flynt,

    Just my 2 cents worth, Don't!

    I haven't tried any other PDM software, but going by the trouble I am having
    at the moment, I would suggest that you get a demo using your own documents.

    I have been using Pdmworks for just over two years and from day one, it's
    been a pain in the butt.
    Even after having my var set it up it's as slow as a dead donkey.

    My hardware was to blame , then my software, so I brought new hardware and
    software and it runs even slower! lol

    Solidworks is great, its the add-ons that kill it!

    So before I get flamed, I offer this challenge, prove me wrong, remote my pc
    and see if you can see what's wrong! Even with a webex, the answer I got
    from my var was, "It shouldn't be that slow!"
    PMSL.

    My var are due to re-look at my NEW expensive setup on the 16th November,
    (yes I have to wait that long!), I will update everyone then.

    Have a nice day! :)
     
    pete, Oct 27, 2005
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  4. Flynt

    pete Guest

    Hi Remy, I am using three XP Pro SP2 boxes 1Gb networked.
    Two Amd x2 4800 4Gb ram pci express 3400 74Gb raptor sata drive and one
    Compaq Intel 2.8 2Gb ram 2x 120Gb Sata drives in raid1 for the vault.
    Solidworks Office Professional 2006 SP0.0
    Sigh!
     
    pete, Oct 27, 2005
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  5. Flynt

    John Layne Guest

    Hi Pete

    There were quite a few threads on the SolidWorks Forum regarding slow
    performance in SWX2006 if you haven't already read them it may be worth
    a look.

    John Layne
    www.solidengineering.co.nz
     
    John Layne, Oct 27, 2005
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  6. Flynt

    Bonobo Guest

    All this just makes me think every SoliWorks VAR ought to have a demo
    Server they have set up with umpteen gigs of 'dummy' files of generic
    stuff and some higher level assemblies, and they ought to have to bring
    it out to YOUR OFFICE, since you are proposing to give them money for a
    product, and they ought to be able to show that product working in YOUR
    ENVIRONMENT before you plunk down the hard earned cash.

    I am sick of software being sold first & then problems addressed with
    an "oh, well, maybe you can try something else" attitude AFTER the VAR
    has got his hands on the money.

    It is about time the VARs should have to "Put Up or Shut Up".

    1. Bring in the pre-configured server
    2. Loaded with the PDMWorks or whatever
    3. Demo actual use conditions on a portion of the user's system (or
    isolated test setup duplicates).
    4. Offer to sell the server with PDM works configured AFTER THE REAL
    WORLD DEMO.

    Bo
     
    Bonobo, Oct 27, 2005
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  7. Flynt

    pete Guest

    Thanks guys I will look into both.


     
    pete, Oct 27, 2005
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  8. Flynt

    pete Guest

    Ok by removing Pdmworks as an Add-in, Solidworks 2006 sp0.0 works like a
    dream, so you may be correct about the network side.
    I will investigate further.
     
    pete, Oct 28, 2005
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  9. Flynt

    Drew Guest

    PDMWorks sure beats the hell out of managing the files your self. I
    think it is a great tool to manage Solidworks files and other
    production files.

    I would suggest getting as much memory as possible for your vault. Each
    revision is a copy of the original. The vault can get very huge, very
    soon. At my place we had 260 GB vault.
     
    Drew, Oct 28, 2005
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