Upgraded Graphics Card, but what's the difference?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Joe Sloppy, Feb 19, 2005.

  1. Joe Sloppy

    Joe Sloppy Guest

    Hello,

    Our company just paid $2,000 for a Workstation from Dell, with a Quadro
    FX 3400 PCIe card, 3.2 P4, and 1gig Ram in the hopes it would speed up
    my work. Well, Right now I am using a Precision Laptop M60 with a 1.5
    P(M), 512 Ram, and a Quadro FX Go700. I am doing routing work and I
    have one route with lots of pipe segments and fittings that takes
    forever to edit (changing a dimension or adding a fitting takes about
    15 seconds of "hang time"). I only have one large route because as
    soon as I figured out that it's much faster to have multiple routes
    than one big one, I made smaller routes. But besides that, I thought
    getting a faster computer with a better graphics card would speed up my
    editing times on this one large route, well, both graphics cards or
    computers perform at the exact same speed when editing the large route.
    I set them side by side & compared them. I was surprised, but maybe I
    am not understanding what would speed up editing and changing this
    large route. Is it processor speed that would increase the speed at
    which SolidWorks rebuilds and makes changes to a route? I am sure this
    would apply to all SolidWorks assemblies with lots of parts- rebuild
    times, changing a dim and waiting for it to update. Thanks for any
    advice.
     
    Joe Sloppy, Feb 19, 2005
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  2. Joe Sloppy

    customsolids Guest

    Processor speeds between Pentium 4 and Pentium M (Centrino) cannot be
    compared as directly equivalent. Here's a benchmark comparing a 1.7
    GHz Centrino configuration to a 2.6 GHz Pentium 4.
    http://www.intel.com/performance/mobile/notebook_configc.htm
    It kind of looks like the Centrino wins. The effective processor
    speeds may not actually be as different as they look between your M60
    and the new Dell.

    Brenda
     
    customsolids, Feb 19, 2005
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  3. Joe Sloppy

    Cliff Guest

    How fast is your disk? Does it thrash?
    Try a faster one?
     
    Cliff, Feb 19, 2005
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  4. Joe,

    The video card won't help selecting, editing, or rebuilding. That's the
    realm of the CPU. As was already mentioned, The Pentium M, and the P4 aren't
    a 1:1 deal with regards to clock speed. The M is either more efficient, or
    faster than advertized, or both. I'd read about this some months ago,
    although I had no idea the discrepency was 2X.

    If you really want to boost your desktop performance, you need to get away
    from Intel. The AMD Athlon64 FX-53 is currently at the top of the
    performance heap. At 2.8ghz, it's performance would be equal to a 5.04ghz
    P4, (which deosn't exist).

    Of course, if your stuck with Dell, your stuck with Intel.

    Regards

    Mark
     
    Mark Mossberg, Feb 20, 2005
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  5. Joe Sloppy

    P. Guest

    There were quite a string of benchmark comparisons recently on the SW
    Performance forum. Guess what, Intel is just ho-hum when it comes to
    performance and the setup you bought would be considered just adequate.


    When buying hardware and making these decisions it helps to have some
    kind of benchmark. Since you do routing, take your assembly to the Dell
    store, temporarily install SW and try it on several of their systems
    till you find one that is sufficient for your needs.

    After you buy a system use benchmarks like SpecAPC and Ship in a Bottle
    to determine that what you bought is performing correctly. Yours might
    not be the first time that a Dell came in through receiving with
    something wrong with it. One user I know got three supposedly identical
    units from Dell with widely varying benchmarks and real world
    performance.

    Benchmarks are extremely helpful in wringing out performance
    bottlenecks, bad graphics drivers and flakey hardware. Make sure your
    system is on par with other similar systems. Microsoft has some
    procedures for finding performance bottlenecks and there are a bunch of
    tips on the SW website known as best practices and such.
     
    P., Feb 20, 2005
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  6. Joe Sloppy

    Merry Owen Guest

    It is interesting that you are having speed problems with routing, I have
    been using it since it was first released and it has always been a pain -
    but I thought it was only me!! I have only noticed the usual incremental
    performance increases as I have upgraaded my computers over the years -
    there was no-one else here in Western Australia using piping (routing) that
    I could compare notes with.

    To help speed it up I try to add as much of the detail to a route
    (instruments fittings, etc.) by opening the route assembly in it's own
    window (i.e. not in the main assembly).

    I also try to work with sub-assemblies as much as possible - e.g. in a large
    steam installation I will add the piping to the individual equipment, then
    bring that piece of equipment, along with its piping systems, into the main
    assembly. This way I only have to do the main steam and condensate piping
    routes in the main assembly.

    Merry :)
     
    Merry Owen, Feb 20, 2005
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