Training manual for solidworks 2003/2004

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by CAD_Consumer, Oct 18, 2003.

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    CAD_Consumer Guest

    Are there any after market books available, that are worth the paper
    they are printed on, to teach me everything about solidworks
    2003/2004? I am especially interested in consumer/industrial design,
    including surface and injection molded part design.
    Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
    My VAR always offers only misdirected, expensive, training classes.
    Thanks for the help.
     
    CAD_Consumer, Oct 18, 2003
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    pete Guest

    The best one I have found is, "Inside Solidworks 2003", by David Murray.
    ISBN 1-4018-0510-8
    This book covers everything you have asked for.
     
    pete, Oct 18, 2003
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    Jaro Guest

    What is cost of this book??
     
    Jaro, Oct 18, 2003
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    Clanger Guest

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    Clanger Guest

    and it gets a poor write up.......

    clanger

     
    Clanger, Oct 18, 2003
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    jon banquer Guest

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...-8486514?v=glance&s=books&vi=customer-reviews

    "Has the author read his own book? The book is very vague and is filled
    with areas that are not correct. I have been using SolidWorks for over 3
    years. This is the worst book that I have ever bought. There are a lot of
    good SolidWorks books out there, this is not one of them."

    "Why did he write a 2002 book and called it a 2003 book. Where is the
    CD to help new uers? There are menu and command updates from 2002
    to 2003 that he does not address."

    "I would like to tell the author, with 880 pages, quantity does not mean
    quality."

    "Not even for free"

    "I obtained a copy of this book for free. I read the reviews:
    "This book is full of errors when it comes to SolidWorks 2003".

    "One feels the author was too lazy to create a real world set of
    examples and instead loves to hear himself expound on his
    CAD knowledge (which sadly is very faulty)".

    "Why do people buy a book like this"?

    "But, it was free. I know now why the person gave me the book...
    It was not worth the time I spent looking through it. Do not make
    the same mistake I did. This was not a helpful or useful book."

    " Not a good book. Why do people buy it?"

    "Why do people buy a book like this? This was not a helpful or
    useful book. I wanted to learn design and software techniques
    using Solidworks. This book skips back and forth, is very vague
    in most areas and is filled with software errors. Is this a 2003
    book? Someone should tell me he needs to update his software.
    You need to read the book cover to cover to obtain some
    information."

    "Look elsewhere to find a more user friendly book that you can
    pick up and be productive. I am very surprise that he has sold
    as many books as he has. I guess people are not that smart,
    "including me". "

    "If you are looking for a balanced introduction to SolidWorks,
    for a reference guide, or for a genuinely application-oriented
    view of SolidWorks, look elsewhere."

    "Engineers are lousy authors. David Murray is an engineer. He may
    be a great teacher in front of a classroom - where he has the opportunity
    to explain and illustrate his point in great detail - but he does not get
    the job done in a book."

    "After working through this book it appears to me to be an update of an
    earlier version. My guess is that he has done little more than change
    the name to address the 2003 version of SolidWorks. His motive?
    Sell more books!"

    "Furthermore, Mr. Murray glosses over how to accomplish the more
    difficult tasks in SolidWorks - but is effusive and wordy when it
    comes the subject of CAD/CAM and simple SolidWorks operations."

    "Take for example lofted parts. After having beat the relatively simple
    operations of sweeps and revolved parts into oblivion, he leaves the
    reader out to dry when it comes to lofted parts. If you cannot figure
    lofting out for yourself using the SolidWorks Help files, the reader
    is dead in the water."

    "Bottom line, my take is that this book is a unsophisticated attempt
    to bleed as much profit as possible from a much earlier work.
    Don't count on it to carry you through the more difficult aspects
    of using SolidWorks for 3D applications"

    "This is not a SolidWorks 2003 book. It doe s not cover the new
    features that are incorporated into the new release. A big disappointment
    with the book, like most SolidWorks book is that it almost completely
    sidesteps the most challenging and potentially rewarding part of using the
    software: building parts in the context of an assembly (what is often called
    the 'top down' method). An extra chapter on 'in context relationships',
    good modeling practices when building parts from inside assemblies,
    and a good introduction on how parametric relationships can make
    or destroy your parts would have made this a much better book.
    Every user who builds from the top down knows the crushing pain
    of moving a component in an assembly and seeing the feature trees
    of some or all of his/her components turn red with rebuild errors.
    I do not recommend this book, unless you are using a very old
    version of SolidWorks. I now know why I received a 30%
    discount. You get what you pay for!! "


    jon
     
    jon banquer, Oct 18, 2003
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    jon banquer Guest

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...customer-reviews&show=-submittime&start-at=11


    "David Murray would do well to stop proliferating poor
    quality books. After a $60 investment and several hours of
    my life, many essentail features of solidworks, like
    surfaces, are still a mystery. As a result, I am here again
    looking for answers in yet another book. Luckily Amazon is
    now selling used books:) I won't need this one any more"

    "This is an out of date book. I wish someone would have told
    me before I spent $60.00. It is NOT worth $20. DO not waste
    you money or time."

    "This is a terrible book. It is not worth the money nor the
    time to read it."

    "I read the first 89 pages and it put me to sleep. I want to
    use SolidWorks and design parts. I do not want to read about
    the history of CAD and the SolidWorks mindset."

    jon
     
    jon banquer, Oct 18, 2003
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    Arthur Y-S Guest

    I am an ID guy. 90% of the work I do deals with doing just what you ask. In
    all honesty the VARs are not 100% off base. The book that is offered from SW
    is the best book that you can get when it comes to getting you teeth into
    the program. Dont get me wrong, there are some other books from other
    writers, but understand that you cant get better info on the market, than
    from the ppl who make it.

    I can understand you feeling or skeptism about taking that course. I am not
    a sale rep, I dont work for SW or a VAR.... thing is for what we do as ID
    majors, SW is an excellent tool, but it is not the one stop shop yet.

    One of the best things that you can do is seek out sites that have models
    for you to DL. Sites like

    www.mikejwilson.com
    www.mechengineer.com/snug (Paul Salvador)

    There are some other, but these are some of the best sites that have model
    that you can DL. Why DL files? Not saying that I have any wish or reson to
    build a F-16 fighter pilot plane. But if you rool it back and go through the
    history tree, see the approach that he/she took, you can start to see how to
    use certain features can be used, and how rules can be broken.

    There is no one way to come at this program, which is one of the reasons why
    I like working in it. But back to what i was saying before about taking the
    course. Before you can start to go all willy nilly in the program, you need
    to understand the foundation. I think this is a given, but especially since
    you have a history tree to think about, relationships that are established
    and possibly broken, WHEW.....

    I hope that this helps
     
    Arthur Y-S, Oct 19, 2003
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    jon banquer Guest

    "Once again, David & Marie Planchard have produced a new excellent training
    guide for SolidWorks; "Engineering Design with SolidWorks 2003". It's
    comprehensive and full of specific details.

    ISBN 1-58503-128-3
    www.schroff.com "


    I checked the website out. They actually have multiple books
    and they look to be extremely well thought out.

    jon







    Once again, David & Marie Planchard have produced a new excellent training
    guide for SolidWorks; "Engineering Design with SolidWorks 2003". It's
    comprehensive and full of specific details.

    ISBN 1-58503-128-3
    www.schroff.com

    Best Regards,
    Devon T. Sowell
    www.3-ddesignsolutions.com
    Are there any after market books available, that are worth the paper
    they are printed on, to teach me everything about solidworks
    2003/2004? I am especially interested in consumer/industrial design,
    including surface and injection molded part design.
    Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
    My VAR always offers only misdirected, expensive, training classes.
    Thanks for the help.
     
    jon banquer, Oct 20, 2003
    #9
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