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Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Wayne Tiffany, Sep 15, 2004.

  1. SW2005 SP0.0

    It appears that there is a bug in that once you assign a hotkey to a
    command, you can't undo it. It lets you go through the procedure, and they
    disappear right in front of your eyes, but then when you restart SW, they
    are back. Even if you reassign one, it keeps remembering them, and all are
    still active. Someone please confirm before I send it in.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Sep 15, 2004
    #1
  2. I got a confirmation of this from SW - hopefully fixed in SP1.0.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Sep 17, 2004
    #2
  3. One way I found to undo hotkeys is to blow away the SW2005 key for CU. Then
    the next time you start SW it will rebuild it from the LM key. However, you
    also lose any other changes you made.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Sep 17, 2004
    #3
  4. Kind of interesting in that I copied out my settings before & after adding
    all the hotkeys, and then compared the files. Macro hotkeys are recorded
    differently than the others. I still don't understand why the hotkeys are
    recorded in 3 different keys. Intriguing, but not sure it's worth spending
    the time on it.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Sep 17, 2004
    #4
  5. differently than the others. I still don't understand why the hotkeys are
    I still don't understand why this is not a table somewere anywhere
    that a human can read and edit. I'm absolutely tired of having to
    monkey with this stuff each time there is a major release. Absolutely
    tired of it. Does anyone know what my alt-f key is mapped too?
    Please e-mail me with the results, because the person who programmed
    the hotkey system only had enough time to tell me that the key is
    already mapped and did not bother to tell me to which function. Ok -
    they gave me a hint - it's a pop-up dialogue called "find & replace
    detailing text", but does that actually map to one of the cute
    functions names in the custom list, you know, the one where you can
    only use the "hot touch" key to reach the first level of the
    heirarchy, but none of the sub functions (i.e. hitting "s" takes you
    to the Sketch heirarchy, but will not "penetrate" down a level to
    "split"). Do the people who program this stuff know how important
    hotkeys and their easy management are to the end user?

    BOOO - We all deserve something better than this. I'm tired of the
    stupid management of the hotkeys and the needless hiding of the
    currently mapped data and the (new) registry abstractions and the
    inability to just so "Ok Thanks for telling me that this is already
    mapped, could you just please un-map this hot key and simply assign it
    to what I just asked you to assign it to without sending me on a
    likely fruitless life-quest for the hidden mapping like I was frodo
    looking for the lost ring or someone in search of a new tomb in the
    valley of the kings or deciphering a lost aramaic script . . .l

    SIMPLE NEED:
    -ONE LIST THAT I CAN READ
    -ONE LIST THAT I CAN EDIT

    COMPILED OR INTERPRETED, I DON'T CARE - JUST DONT LOCK ME OUT OF THE
    HOUSE ANYMORE YOU CRAZY KIDS . . .

    SMA
     
    Sean-Michael Adams, Sep 23, 2004
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  6. Actually, there is a bit of confusion here. The issue at hand was the fact
    that SMA was lamenting over the fact that his alt-F is already mapped and
    the system would not tell him where. You were correct in pointing out that
    my list shows alt-F mapped to the macro of Fix all parts. But that would
    only apply to him if he either loaded my hotkeys, or set that one himself,
    and I would think he would have remembered either instance.

    So, my conclusion is that he was, instead, referring to ctrl-F, which the
    system does say is in use, but doesn't say where, as is its normal method.
    So this is obviously a bug, and is acknowledged by SW as such, and was
    assigned SPR 212054. SW2004 also had this problem.

    Now, I see that ctrl-F does actually do something - it opens a box called
    Find and Replace Detailing Text that allows you to search through notes for
    specified text & optionally replace it. To read about it, go to Help:
    notes, find and replace text. This was not a feature in SW2004, and the
    issue still exists in that the system says the key combination is in use,
    but doesn't list that command, or even tell you what it is.

    The list of mine is something I started back about the SW2000 days out of
    frustration. I wanted to know what all was available for hotkeys and nobody
    had any kind of complete list. So, I sat down with a clean installation and
    stepped through all the commands & menus and wrote them all down. And I
    have kept it up and done it for every version since. Every once in a while
    someone will feed me one that I either missed, or is undocumented, but
    works.

    Previous to SW2005, the hotkeys were stored in a separate file on your hard
    drive in your SW installation folder in a folder called User. This file had
    the name of your login with the extension .CUS. To give someone your
    hotkeys, they just had to put the file there, rename it to their login, and
    SW would pick it up. Not bad, but the CopyOptionsWizard would not pick it
    up. The file was also not readable ASCII text. Why not? I don't know, I
    didn't code it. Anyway, with 2005, the hotkeys are stored in the registry
    and the CopyOptionsWizard has been rewritten to allow you to copy them with
    the other settings, by themselves, or not at all. If you haven't tried the
    Wizard, take a look. By the way, 2005 will also recognize the .CUS file, so
    that's still an option if sometimes you don't want the hotkeys active, or
    maybe want a different set active.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Sep 24, 2004
    #6
  7. Actually, there is a bit of confusion here. The issue at hand was the fact
    Indeed, I am grateful that my cynically crafted rhetorical ramblings
    were not taken too seriously by anyone, including me.

    Here we go - maybe SW corp should pay you $1000 to consult with them
    to point out all the liabilities of this keymapping funtionality and
    get it fixed. It's a bummer, but I don't know who's ticking their ear
    on what is needed (new & fixup). Getting things like this squared
    away would make SW so much better in a real way.

    :)

    SMA
     
    Sean-Michael Adams, Sep 25, 2004
    #7
  8. Amen to that
    I here ya talking, and I'll second that motion
     
    Neville Williams, Sep 26, 2004
    #8
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