Toolbox problem with different machines.

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Gavin Melville, Feb 23, 2004.

  1. Hi,

    When I move a large assembly from my work machine to my laptop and
    open it all the fasteners change to the largest possible size. The
    setup, version of SW (2004 sp2.1) and directory paths are identical.
    All the parts with issues are from the Toolbox.

    When I open the assembly I get a dialog box with the following message
    "The following component configurations could not be found", and a
    list of all the fasteners. I cannot replace any fasteners -- the
    "Edit Toolbox Definition" is grayed out. I can add fasteners from
    the toolbox on the laptop, and the file ->open -> show references
    shows they have the same path as the ones that won't load.

    SW Tech support thinks I have a path permission or access problem with
    the Toolbox directory under the SW install directory -- I don't.

    This works both ways -- assemblies created on the laptop are not
    loadable on the desktop.

    I have also looked at the "create copy" flag in the toolbox browser
    options dialog box -- this doesn't seem to be what I want, and I would
    have to keep changing the directory to keep copies in as I work on
    different designs.

    Any bright ideas ??
     
    Gavin Melville, Feb 23, 2004
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  2. Gavin Melville

    matt Guest

    G:

    First step is to get a new reseller, or at least to make sure that your
    reseller starts putting someone competent on the phone. I assume by "SW
    Tech support" you mean your reseller's tech support, SolidWorks direct
    support knows the answer to this in their sleep. Anyone working at a
    reseller who can't tell what's going on right out of the box with this
    should be doing something else.

    This is the problem created by Toolbox being installed without the
    entire database of parts, just a single initial configuration for each
    fastener type, and then the rest of the size configurations are created
    on the fly as you put parts into your assembly, so the correct
    configurations only exist on the computer where the parts were first
    created. It's an underlying flaw in the design of the Toolbox product
    which SW has not fixed for literally years. The only ways you could
    have avoided this would have been to have real the Toolbox FAQs, already
    made the mistake or to have talked to someone who knew the problem was
    going to happen (presumably your reseller).

    The way to fix it is to either do a network install of Toolbox with all
    of the computers pointing to the network library or use the "Copy
    Parts" switch and have the copy directory somewhere where everybody can
    see it. I highly recommend the "copy parts" solution, since if a part
    is missing, the worst that happens is that it gets suppressed until you
    can find it, whereas if a config is missing, it gets replaced with
    another (inappropriate) configuration, and if you save it that way,
    well, that's what you've got, the largest size of fasteners everywhere.

    If you have a laptop that you take out of the network to do SW work, you
    will need to copy the Toobox parts to that machine somewhere where SW
    can find it. I recommend using Tools, Options, File Locations,
    Referenced Files.

    If you want instructions for the network install, go to the SW website
    in the knowledge base area.

    Good Luck.

    matt
     
    matt, Feb 23, 2004
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  3. Gavin Melville

    matt Guest

    When I was doing the CAD Admin gig, I built my own library. It took about
    the same amount of time as getting Toolbox right and it was a lot lower
    maintenance. I gave up some things like Smart Fasteners, but gained a lot
    of peace of mind.

    If you buy a new machine, you will need to bring your old library forward.
    If you just install from the CD and then get an assembly from someone else
    that doesn't contain the TB parts the other guy created with his assembly,
    you will quickly find out about this problem.

    The most reliable way to use Toolbox is to avoid configurations, and go
    with the "copy parts" option. It gives each size a quirky but distinctly
    different file name, and you never get the wrong size. The worst that
    happens is that it will get suppressed. The way Toolbox installs by
    default is the absolute worst way you could do it if you were trying to
    play a bad prank on someone; installed locally using configurations with
    only the default config created.

    If you get a SolidWorks assembly from someone else, make sure it has their
    toolbox parts with it.

    matt
     
    matt, Feb 24, 2004
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  4. John,

    Short of networking your Toolbox data files, the best most foolproof way I've found is to save a copy of the fastener to
    the folder for the job you're working on. For instance, I use primarily socket head cap screws. After I insert the first
    SHCS, I open the SHCS file from the assembly and "Save As" to my working folder. All of the additional sizes (config's)
    will be added to this file. When I need to move it, take it home, save it to the network, it's not going to be looking
    for files strewn about or config's that don't exist on a certain machine.

    HTH,

    Malcontent
     
    Malcolm_Tempt, Feb 24, 2004
    #4
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