I've noticed something now for 2 years and at first I thought I was going crazy. But I've seen it so many times now I know that it is really happening. I suspect this may be a windows thing and not a cad thing , however I've noticed it under both win98 and winXP. I'm wondering if anyone else has this and why it does it ??? Sometimes my toolbar icons are smaller in some drawings than in other drawings. And no I did not change the machines display resolution, it is still 800x600 like always, and no I did not change to "Large Icons" in the Cad display preferences , these settings are always the same because I've checked them lately every time this happens. It's so noticeable on my machine because I have my toolbars positioned vertically on the screen and they are maxed out with no more room at the bottom. But every now and then a drawing will open up and there will be room for 2 more icons at the bottom ??? Oh and also just in case you assume I'm an idiot, the commandline height is always the same too. And any addon arx menus are not any more height than before. Any input ????