Hi, I have a problem with the position of toolbars and want to solve it with VBA. The toolbars who are in the menugrup "ACAD" work just fine if I move them to another place next time I open (any) drawing, the toolbar is on the position I left it. But for a newly created menugroup "Test" the position of the toolbars are set and should be saved but this saving doesn't work. What I want to do is dock all visible toolbars at the top. But then it becomes a long row of toolbars that go outside the screen. Is there a way to dock the toolbars and when it reaches the end of the screen then he continues left and a row lower? Or can you give in coordinates for a toolbar to dock at that position something like in the float command? Thanks, Frank