Too many clicks to edit a sketch (WF2)

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by dgeesaman, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. dgeesaman

    dgeesaman Guest

    After spending 3 years using SolidEdge, and now 2 months back in Pro/E,
    there is one thing that is driving me nuts: the 'depth' of editing a
    sketch.

    In SE, I could right-click on any feature and choose 'Edit Sketch' and
    start working. In Pro/E, the fastest way I've found is Edit
    Definition, Placement, Define, Sketch.

    (Likewise, cancelling an edit from a sketch is ferociously annoying
    too, but that's a slightly other story)

    Is there a quicker way to handle this, or must I rely on a Mapkey?

    Thanks,

    Dave
     
    dgeesaman, Mar 16, 2006
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  2. dgeesaman

    John Wade Guest

    If you have features with embedded sketches, expand the feature in the
    feature tree, then right click the sketch, edit definition on that
    takes you straight to the sketcher dialogue box, bypassing the
    'placement, define, sketch' rubbish.
     
    John Wade, Mar 16, 2006
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  3. dgeesaman

    Jeff Howard Guest

    Adding to John's reply...
    If you don't need to redefine sketch entities; RMB, Edit (not Def). Regen.

    Yes it is. But I haven't been quite annoyed enough to investigate a mapkey
    that'll throw me all the way back up to top level. I do remember seeing one
    posted, don't remember where (here, Eng-Tips, mcadcentral?).
     
    Jeff Howard, Mar 16, 2006
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  4. dgeesaman

    dgeesaman Guest

    Ok, that's an improvment, but still takes a few clicks to get you all
    the way into sketcher.

    Jeff, I did make a mapkey just after I posted - took all of 5 minutes.
    Select a feature and type 'se' (Sketch Edit), and it will launch to the
    sketcher. From sketcher, type 'sc' (Sketch Cancel) and it will take
    you back and discard all changes to the feature. As much as I hate to
    crutch on mapkeys for basic stuff, I'll be using this one regularly.

    Mapkey nitty-gritty below.

    Dave

    mapkey sc @MAPKEY_NAMECancel editing a feature from the sketch screen;\
    mapkey(continued) @MAPKEY_LABELSketch - Cancel Changes;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `main_dlg_cur` `ProCmdSketQuit.sket_r`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ FocusIn `UI Message Dialog` `yes`;~ Activate `UI
    Message Dialog` `yes`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `Odui_Dlg_01` `stdbtn_2`;~ FocusIn `UI
    Message Dialog` `yes`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `UI Message Dialog` `yes`;~ Enter
    `main_dlg_cur` `dashInst0.Quit`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `main_dlg_cur` `dashInst0.Quit`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ FocusIn `UI Message Dialog` `yes`;~ Activate `UI
    Message Dialog` `yes`;
    mapkey se @MAPKEY_NAMEEdit the sketch of a feature;@MAPKEY_LABELEdit
    Sketch;;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ RButtonArm `main_dlg_cur` `PHTLeft.AssyTree`
    `node6`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ PopupOver `main_dlg_cur` `ActionMenu`1
    `PHTLeft.AssyTree`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ Open `main_dlg_cur` `ActionMenu`;~ Close
    `main_dlg_cur` `ActionMenu`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `main_dlg_cur` `Redefine`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `main_dlg_cur`
    `chkbn.extrev_1_placement.0`1 ;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `extrev_1_placement.0.0` `PH.Sketch`;\
    mapkey(continued) ~ Activate `Odui_Dlg_01` `stdbtn_3`;
     
    dgeesaman, Mar 16, 2006
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  5. dgeesaman

    Jeff Howard Guest

    Jeff, I did make a mapkey just after I posted

    Thanks. I'll give it a gander.

    I looked for the cancel thread I was thinking about;
    http://mcadcentral.com/proe/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26762&PN=0&TPN=3
    in case you want to see if anything looks attractive.

    I never paid that much attention to it and did notice something interesting at
    the bottom of the page ...

    CTRL+A seems to cancel out of feature creation or edit
    requiring only clicking the Yes's.

    .... new one on me.
     
    Jeff Howard, Mar 16, 2006
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  6. dgeesaman

    David Janes Guest

    I don't think it should be this difficult. The feature probably has a plus next to
    it. When you click expand the feature, it'll have the sketch listed as a
    reference. Instead of 'Edit>Definition"ing the feature, do it on the sketch. When
    that last dumbass holdover from Menu Manager comes up and makes you click that
    last button to Sketch, do so, and you're in Sketcher. Obviously, it could be
    easier (in WF & SE), such as all the sketches being visible all the time, and
    being able to just click drag any part of any sketch at any time and have the
    related feature change in real time as you did it. I know there'd be complaints
    about this (over-crowded feature tree, glutted graphics window, etc.) but what I
    described isn't too difficult, is it?
    Try ^A
     
    David Janes, Mar 16, 2006
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  7. dgeesaman

    John Wade Guest

    Being lazy, I just use the 'activate window' button to cancel
    operations, then click 'yes'
     
    John Wade, Mar 17, 2006
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  8. dgeesaman

    David Janes Guest

    Yup, the other "check mark" icon (I think it's the little one) or typing ctrl-a
    gets you out of a lot of Menu Manager jams.
     
    David Janes, Mar 17, 2006
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