Tablet Overlay for Solidworks?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Bruce Murray, Oct 30, 2004.

  1. Bruce Murray

    Bruce Murray Guest

    My company will soon be moving to Soliworks from Autocad and I am
    currently practising on the PE version.

    I have always used, with Autocad, a digitizer tablet with an overlay
    since this gives me the most screen area and also I find it the fastest
    way to work, in conjuction with a command line.

    Is it feasible to set up a similar arrangement with Solidworks?

    Thanks

    Bruce Murray
    Winchester, MA
     
    Bruce Murray, Oct 30, 2004
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  2. You can certainly set up SolidWorks to work very similar to AutoCAD with a
    command line and keyboard shortcuts. SolidWorks has something called the 2D
    Emulator to achieve this. I don't know of any digitizing tablet overlays
    that work in conjunction with SolidWorks.

    If you want advice from a former AutoCAD user.....forget the way you work in
    AutoCAD. SolidWorks & AutoCAD are two different animals and should really
    be approached differently when using them as design tools. It took me a
    while to break my AutoCAD habits when I first started using SolidWorks but
    once the monkey is off your back you'll love the SolidWorks interface and
    ease of use. Every so often I have to use AutoCAD for something and I can't
    help but wonder how in the hell I ever used the software. Seems so
    primitive now.

    Good Luck
     
    Rob Rodriguez, Oct 30, 2004
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  3. Bruce Murray

    P. Guest

    Actually, you might want to trade in your 2D tablet for a 3D Spaceball.
    The tablet becomes less usefull with things like customizable toolbars
    and the command manager. On the other hand since you will be working in
    3D, being able to quickly move your viewpoint around a part will become
    far more important.
     
    P., Oct 30, 2004
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  4. Bruce Murray

    MM Guest

    Bruce,

    SW doesn't have a command line, nor does any other modern system.

    When we moved our ACAD people over to SW, they continued to use their
    tablets until we moved to Win2000, no drivers. Even so, they were only able
    to use them as a mouse, no overlay.

    SW isn't really designed for a tablet. Frankly, I could never see the
    advantage of constantly looking back and forth, although ACAD's GUI was a
    logistical mess so it probably helped. It took them awhile, but the finally
    got used to the SW way of doing things. The trick to this is using what SW
    provided, RMB, and hot keys. The "Command Manager" is also very usefull for
    some people.

    AS far as screen area, you don't really need as much with 3D modeling as you
    do with 2D drafting. Even so, SW keeps adding stuff that makes the graphics
    window smaller. It almost seems like our monitors are shrinking.

    That being said, maybe an overlay driven tablet would be a good idea for
    some folks. All of SW's commands are available through the API, so someone
    "could" do it. I guess it's probably just a matter of demand. Graphic tablet
    manufacturers have been on the skids (saleswise) for years, so it'd take a
    very compelling reason for them to do it.


    Regards


    Mark
     
    MM, Oct 30, 2004
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  5. Bruce Murray

    P. Guest

    SW does have a 2D command line in the sketcher. I don't know of anyone
    that has ever used it in production. Look in your addins for 2D.
     
    P., Oct 31, 2004
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  6. Bruce Murray

    MM Guest

    P,

    In ACAD 2D, or boolean solids, tha command line was actually used to do real
    work.

    As it is implemented in the emulator, it's nearly usless for doing anything
    meaningfull in Solidworks.

    Mark
     
    MM, Nov 1, 2004
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  7. When I was using AutoCAD I never could get used to the darn tablet. It
    seemed extremely cumbersom and never moved as smothly as a mouse. Besides
    what do you do without a middle mouse button how do you scroll pan rotate.
    Your neck must get all screwed up too whipping back and forth. Anyway I
    never found much use for it. Maybe this is because I didn't start using
    AutoCad until R14. A generational thing anyway. Toolbars are the way to go.
    The nice thing about SW toolbars is that it trys to remember the tools that
    you have up when you are modeling and the tools you had up when you were
    assembling and the tools you had up when you are drawing. And it
    automatically brings back the tools when you switch between the interfaces.
    Tablets had their time in the dark ages, but learn the new way of doing
    things you may loose a little bit of screen to the tool bars but you won't
    regret it. If it is too much for you get a bigger monitor. Maybe you could
    set up a projector and have a 90" screen. =^)

    Anyway I don't think the tablet is usefull anymore it had it's time in the
    era of 13" monitors but isn't as relevent anymore.

    And as far as the command prompt is concerned it was a quick and reliable
    way of doing things 2 handed in AutoCAD but if you set up and get to know
    the shortcut keys in SW you will find they can bring you back to a similar
    place, Though it is best to get to know the location of the tools you want.

    Corey
     
    Corey Scheich, Nov 1, 2004
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  8. Bruce Murray

    Bruce Murray Guest




    Thank you all for your thoughtful guidance. I plan to use the toolbars
    and forget about the tablet approach
    As a side point I am getting up to speed using the PE edition at home
    and it doesn't seem to have the command line add in - so I'll just have
    to do without it.

    Kind regards

    Bruce Murray
     
    Bruce Murray, Nov 1, 2004
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  9. Bruce Murray

    P. Guest

    Solidworks 2D Emulator is what you want. It is still in SW, even 2005.

    I think you will find the SW sketch tools work out better for making SW
    sketches. Although if you are really fast with ACAD commands you might
    be able to use autodimension to get fully defined sketches after laying
    things out.

    SW modeling does better with this 3 step process:

    1. Establish toplogy (regardless of dimensions)
    2. Establish remaining relations (perp., parallel, tangent, etc.)
    3. Dimension starting with smallest features first and work up to large
    features.

    Keep fillets and the small stuff out of the sketches. They have their
    own feature.
     
    P., Nov 1, 2004
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  10. Bruce Murray

    P. Guest

    I think it was a sop to help convince borderline ACAD installations to have
    a go at SW. Like many things that have gotten into SW over the years, this
    was half baked. I would be surprised if anyone on the NG actually made
    productive use of it.

    At one point I think SW toyed with incorporating Visio (which is now
    Intellicad). I always rooted for Anvil to make a SW drafting addin. Why
    they put the 2D stuff in the sketcher is beyond me. The shift in thinking
    required to go from ACAD to 3D is far more than a user interface issue.

    And I do wish there was a command line in SW with a reasonably easy to use
    command language.
     
    P., Nov 2, 2004
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  11. Has anybody tried out one of the new Laser Mouse's that is available? The
    precision is supposed to be 20X better than an optical mouse. I haven't used
    one myself But I've read, from people that have used them for just for
    windows applications, that they're much better than an optical mouse.

    Richard
     
    Richard Charney, Nov 2, 2004
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