SWX & Vista

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by IDAssociatesLLC, Feb 11, 2007.

  1. I'll admit to ignorance up front. I did a test upgrade of an XP HDD with
    Vista Ultimate. The drive had SWX '07 on it and after the upgrade '07
    wouldnt run at all. Not even after a delete and reinstall of SWX. Checked
    the SWX site and noted SWX Vista.

    Has either my upgrade to Vista failed or my reinstall of SWX or does '07 in
    fact not run in Vista ? Only SWX vista ?
     
    IDAssociatesLLC, Feb 11, 2007
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  2. IDAssociatesLLC

    TOP Guest

    Which of course means that SW will now be concurrently supporting

    SW2007
    SW2007 64bit
    SW2007 Vista

    Since the number of beta testers on 64bit or Vista is going to be much
    smaller than regular SW we might infer that these versions will also
    be buggier or will take longer to get to a reasonably stable state.
     
    TOP, Feb 11, 2007
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    Wonderman Guest

    Kind of a dissapointment. Anyone heard of a timetable where SWX will be
    release for Vista or are we waiting for '08 ? I had seen a post from SWX on
    this board a while back regarding Vista nd they were unsure as to whether
    they will support '07 for it.

    Also the EULA of Vista is a bit daunting too.
     
    Wonderman, Feb 11, 2007
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  4. IDAssociatesLLC

    Bo Guest

    Don't be in a hurry to "ruin your day", unless you just like to
    experiment.

    I would never upgrade to a new version of an OS until at least 1-2
    major patches are out for something like SolidWorks, and then only if
    I can see a high level of performance.

    XP, when properly set up, can run SolidWorks just fine, and I rarely
    interract with the OS when working on SolidWorks, so I just don't care
    about the OS, as long as it doesn't get in my way of getting work out.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Feb 11, 2007
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  5. seems like a pretty good reason to finally abandon microsoft and make a
    linux version.

    bill
     
    bill allemann, Feb 11, 2007
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  6. IDAssociatesLLC

    bob zee Guest

    truer words were never written...

    bob z.
     
    bob zee, Feb 11, 2007
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  7. IDAssociatesLLC

    TOP Guest

    Just won't happen. Linux doesn't pay software writers to use their OS
    because Linux doesn't exist. Can Linux sponsor SWW?

    And if I was going to get Linux into the CAD spotlight I would port
    DWGEditor there first. That would make a dent in all the right
    places.
     
    TOP, Feb 12, 2007
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  8. IDAssociatesLLC

    mikemcd Guest

    or just run in windows xp compatibility mode
     
    mikemcd, Feb 12, 2007
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  9. IDAssociatesLLC

    ed_1001 Guest

    Amen, brother.
     
    ed_1001, Feb 12, 2007
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  10. IDAssociatesLLC

    MM Guest

    Paul,

    Well,,,, they better have a plan B, because we will be dropping Solidworks
    when their support for XP is over. We'll probably take a number of our
    clients with us, and our new clients for sure. We're probably directly
    responsible for selling several hundred seats.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one.


    Mark
     
    MM, Feb 12, 2007
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  11. IDAssociatesLLC

    mbiasotti Guest

    SW Vista EV version will be release with SW SP3 coming sometime mid
    this month.
     
    mbiasotti, Feb 12, 2007
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  12. I have a hard time understanding the connection to MS. The workload of
    keeping up with all the OS versions
    must be growing exponentially.
    With linux, they could have total control of the OS, and bundle it, even.
    As it is now, I pretty much keep a workstation
    "clean" of almost all other software to minimize the bugginess and
    sluggishness in swx and Windows.
    For stability and speed, I'd be happy to have a somewhat dedicated OS for
    swx.
    I have a feeling that the "next big thing" in mcad will do exactly that.
    bill
     
    bill allemann, Feb 12, 2007
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  13. IDAssociatesLLC

    Bo Guest

    With maybe 750,000 SolidWorks users by next year this time, I simply
    can not believe that SolidWorks Corp can not pay for the entire
    SolidWorks World in San Diego.

    Lots and lots of UNIX applications & CAD exist, but UNIX doesn't pay
    for developers in any way either, as far as I know.

    I think it is just simple management logic to say that a universal
    "Crescent Wrench" (ala Windows XP or VISTA) is not the best tool for
    production manufacturing. For average business & personal use Windows
    is OK & probably terrific. For heavy scientific calcs & simulations,
    UNIX or mainframe super computer solutions are best.

    For anything like 3D CAD which a user uses heavy 4-6+ hours a day, why
    not use the OS that is fastest and most error free, so the dedicated
    user gets the most work done? Given that the SWks Software costs more
    in maintenance fees each year (with a few options) than the average PC
    costs, there is little reason to use a sub-optimal OS given the SWks
    yearly cost and the value of the engineer/designer using SWks.

    I'll bet that options are being considered in a lot of Windows'
    developers internal planning meetings.
     
    Bo, Feb 12, 2007
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    bob zee Guest


    bob z. hasn't laughed this hard in a really long time. unfortunately,
    good ol' bob z. is sure you weren't trying to make a joke.

    bob z.
    p.s. vEE-stah!!!
     
    bob zee, Feb 13, 2007
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    Wonderman Guest

    Wont work for me for SWX07 sp.0.0 in Vista xp spr comp. mode.
     
    Wonderman, Feb 22, 2007
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  16. IDAssociatesLLC

    badgerboy Guest

    badgerboy, Feb 23, 2007
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  17. IDAssociatesLLC

    TOP Guest

    A few observations:

    According to this list SW will work with all versions of Vista from
    Home to Enterprise which is at odds with SW own statements.

    SW may work, but nowhere are Cosmos or any of the analysis addins
    mentioned. Will SW Premium work?

    Will DWGEditor or eDRawings work with it.

    Symantec AV is nowhere to be seen. Only Trend AV seems to make the
    cut.

    Only the latest versions of MicroSoft Office products are certified.
    Other will work with it, but are not certified. ACAD is also in the
    will work with it category.

    UG and ProE are absent. So is CATIA. NIX Ansys, Nastrans and many
    other engineering analysis packages.

    I'll bet Playstation or Xbox have more certified titles.

    TOP
     
    TOP, Feb 24, 2007
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  18. IDAssociatesLLC

    jimsym Guest

    From the SW Vista FAQ, updated 2/20/2007

    Q: Will COSMOS products be available with the Beta version?
    A: COSMOSWorks, COSMOSMotion are available for Beta 1 and
    COSMOSFloWorks will be
    available for Beta 2.

    Q: What other products will not be available for SolidWorks Vista
    Beta?
    A: Rhino import, MoldflowXpress, Electrical Harnessing portion of
    Routing, and PDMWorks
    Enterprise.

    (This is NOT a recommendation for Vista, just info.)
     
    jimsym, Feb 26, 2007
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  19. IDAssociatesLLC

    TOP Guest

    I finally got to play with VISTA tonight. Uh, what's it supposed to
    do?

    It didn't pass the 5 minute test, i.e., if you can't see the reason
    for something that you can't live without in 5 minutes is it really
    worth it?

    My friend didn't have too much trouble with online gaming. It was
    smooth except for jets just hanging in air for a few seconds while you
    flew past them. Supposedly this was a network issue.

    The UACs are a hoot.

    My friend says installing is very easy. It does everything for you.
    I've heard that before and wonder how easy it is when something goes
    wrong?

    TOP
     
    TOP, Mar 5, 2007
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  20. IDAssociatesLLC

    Bo Guest

    "When something goes wrong", it is a forgone conclusion that Pioneers
    take the Arrows.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Mar 5, 2007
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