SWks 2006 SP1 Usability?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Bonobo, Nov 5, 2005.

  1. Bonobo

    Bonobo Guest

    Nearly a month after the release of SWks 2006 SP1, I am wondering if
    SP1 is considered to be stable enough for general use?

    Thanks - Bo
     
    Bonobo, Nov 5, 2005
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  2. Bonobo

    Scott Guest

    I thought SP0.0 was safe... SP1.0 is safe IMO too. There have been some bugs
    reported... but that is nothing new IMO.

    Regards,
     
    Scott, Nov 5, 2005
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  3. Bonobo

    TOP Guest

    It isn't just an issue of safe. Have you retrained yourself to take
    advantage of what's new and changed? In doing so you will probably
    answer the first question.
     
    TOP, Nov 6, 2005
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  4. Bonobo

    Bonobo Guest

    No training.

    I don't waste my time with a new release until it seems like the
    problems have been reduced to where most work can go on without any
    significant problems. It took me until SP4 in SWks 2005 before I would
    switch.

    Once it seems like it is good to switch, I'll put in the time checking
    out features and new items of note. It is so time consuming to get any
    significant new release up to speed, that I certainly don't want to
    start and stop, and then start again 4 months later.
     
    Bonobo, Nov 6, 2005
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  5. Bonobo

    TOP Guest

    So you plan to drop SW2006?
     
    TOP, Nov 6, 2005
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  6. Bonobo

    Bonobo Guest

    I don't quite understand "So you plan to drop SW2006?".

    I just want to get a feel for whether SWks 2006 is now operable without
    significant 'restrictions', so that I can make a guess as to whether I
    should consider making the move now.

    There is no exact way for a non-user to understand a new release
    without spending time on it, yet hopefully the collective wisdom of the
    online group can give enough clues to make a decent guess, before
    plowing ahead.
     
    Bonobo, Nov 6, 2005
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  7. Bonobo

    SoCalMike Guest

    The whole question of "when should upgrade" has always baffeled me.
    "when I have my screensaver set to XXX, and I try to use font XXX for a
    word document, while having XXX program minimised, Solidworks crashes".
    If there was a problem with overall stability on a sp0 release, there
    would be an issue. It seems the general bar out there is to wait for
    the first major sp to be released. For SW2005 SP1.0 wasnt released
    until Feb of 2005. For SW2006, it came out in Oct. I didnt see any
    restrictions in SW2006 SP0 let alone SP1.0 . Go thru the Whats New
    section to see the changes as there are a number of improvements. To
    me one of the challenges of using SW are discoveing and implementing
    the yearly changes. As far as stability goes, I think most user
    problems can be attributed to hardware problems. The release of a
    64-Bit Beta version combined with the announcement of only supporting
    Windows XP for Sw2007, should be a hint on the direction SW if heading.
    I would say concentrate on keeping your workstation upto date, and
    just putting up with the little SW quirks that are there. How many
    versions has the selection error been present now? (the one where SW
    just goes ahead and de-selects some of the selection otpions for us!)
     
    SoCalMike, Nov 6, 2005
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  8. Bonobo

    TOP Guest

    If you plan to drop SW2006 then why bother learning it? If you plan to
    use it eventually, which I think you do, and if you want to hit the
    ground running as opposed to learning it on the fly then why not spend
    time in it before you roll it out. I have spent a lot of time with 2006
    and know there is a lot to learn/relearn in order to use it. In the
    process of learing 2006 you should be able to answer a lot of
    questions specific to your implementation and then add the group wisdom
    to that. If you depend solely on the group and not on your own
    testing/use you may miss something.

    I generally find problems about every ten minutes just puttering around
    with new functionality in a new release, and 2006 is not excepted from
    that.
     
    TOP, Nov 7, 2005
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  9. Bonobo

    Bonobo Guest

    I plan to load up a separate hard drive with Swks 2006 at probably SP1
    sometime this month, so I can start learning it with it separated from
    my 'normal' work.

    This way I don't disrupt anything else I'm doing or wind up with
    converted files which I can't revert back to SWks 2005 if I need them
    there to work on them.

    If I'm going to attend SolidWorks world, I'm going to want to be on
    2006 by then.

    Bo
     
    Bonobo, Nov 7, 2005
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  10. Two of my colleagues are running SW06 now, as they start work on a new
    project. One is on SP0 and one is on SP1. Both are seeing a lot more crashes
    than they were having with SW04 (we skipped SW05). It's possible that the
    crashes are more due to the work they are doing now (lots of surfaces),
    rather than the new software, but the crashes don't seem to be related to
    specific actions. They also have had problems with being unable to pick on
    screen and having sketch entities disappear, so maybe SW06 is pushing the
    graphics cards beyond their safe operating envelope.

    They haven't done anything with drawings yet, so I can't comment on the
    problems that others have seen with SP1.

    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Nov 7, 2005
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  11. Bonobo

    Bonobo Guest

    I think I'll put SWks 2006 on its own hard drive, and play it 100%
    safe.

    Bo
     
    Bonobo, Nov 8, 2005
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  12. Bonobo

    TOP Guest

    The shame of this is that half your subscription runs out before you
    can install the next version in production. When 2006 came out, I think
    the VARs would pass on 2005 problems saying they were now supporting
    2006. But I'm glad you will get up to speed on 2006. There are some
    features that will be of help to some, but little that will be of help
    to all.
     
    TOP, Nov 8, 2005
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  13. Bonobo

    Dominic V Guest

    I've been using 2006 SP0 for some time and it has been a huge
    improvement for me on 2005 SP4. I haven't noticed hardly any
    instability issues with it yet. Initially it took a while to open
    documents from PDM works, but now most of these documents have been
    converted, and things seem to run fine. Re Usability: There are now
    heaps of cool features for annotations and dimension that were not
    available in 2005. These improvements alone are worth switching for.
    We will be coordinating the upgrade to SP1 shortly. I think in the
    past, definitley prior to SW 2004, the first release was definitely
    problematic, but I think enough work has been done on the CAD engine
    now that users don't need to worry too much about the software
    performance. Now I'm just hanging out for expanded functionality in
    future releases.
     
    Dominic V, Nov 8, 2005
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  14. Bonobo

    Bonobo Guest

    I think the SolidWorks management team has been listening hard to prior
    years complaints about paying the maintenance fee and then customers
    having to wait 6 months or so before stability is achieved before they
    can upgrade.

    It seems like this year for the first time I recall, a yearly release
    will be ready for prime time on January 1.

    That is a milestone I would like to see repeated as a rule.

    Bo
     
    Bonobo, Nov 8, 2005
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