SW2008 why?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by clay, Feb 13, 2008.

  1. clay

    clay Guest

    My perspective, being a SW user since 95, is that SW2008 is a test
    marketing release for SW2009, for what I have seen/heard so far. To see
    what stays or goes away. So things that you don't like need to get
    communicated SOON to your Var or corporate. They messed with lots of
    standardized conventions, some of which go way back. Some are better
    implementations, some are not. It took me a little while to get used to
    the floating command manager, but I can see the benefit. Why they
    screwed with the RMB I will never understand.

    So if you are going to complain, make it worth everyones while by
    letting your Vars know specifically what you have heartburn about. Soon.

    ca
     
    clay, Feb 13, 2008
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  2. clay

    jon_banquer Guest

    I've posted what's really wrong with SolidWorks. When you have the
    kinds of problems SolidWorks does, because SolidWorks doesn't have the
    tools necessary to easily manage all the complex relations that
    SolidWorks creates, it makes the UI issues that you mention pretty
    minor.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 13, 2008
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  3. clay

    TOP Guest

    Rumor has it that 2008 is the result of studying what users want. So
    what you are asking for is for users to un-want all the nifty new
    stuff they got in 2008. I would suggest a different approach. All
    users clam up, zip it, cease and desist, stop, halt and be silent.
    This would have the effect of depleting marketing of ideas and let the
    technical guys inside SW who really know how to think through this
    stuff have a voice again.

    TOP
     
    TOP, Feb 13, 2008
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  4. clay

    jon_banquer Guest

    http://paulsalvador.blogspot.com/

    "SW Corp gets away with releasing half-bake-ware

    The reason why SW Corp gets away with releasing half-bake-ware:

    Majority rules, 80-90% of the users come from using inexpensive,
    inferior and poorly managed design tools. Most of the user base do not
    fully use the tool or use very little of the functionality, thus, the
    more involved functionality is typically overlooked, poorly critiqued
    or supported. Majority of the users expectations on quality are very
    low or the need for reliable software is average. Many of the users
    come from using past tools with limited functionality, they become use
    to or complacent with working around limitations. Workarounds, due to
    limitations, have a "at a boy" or a accomplishment related
    mentality,.. this is, it becomes an accepted part of the job when
    using the software."


    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Feb 13, 2008
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  5. clay

    Dale Dunn Guest

    An interesting idea... But I'm afraid the marketing people would start
    guessing if we stopped giving feedback.
     
    Dale Dunn, Feb 13, 2008
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  6. Jon,

    I don't know what you are talking about it regards to "80-90% of the
    users come from using inexpensive,
    inferior and poorly managed design tools." you are right that most
    users come from that... that is why they step up to solid modeling.
    other users did come down from higher end systems. If you want catia
    go buy it... but it will cost you!!!! So for the copanies that SHOULD
    be using catia, that are too cheap and are using SolidWorks... I don't
    see how they can complain.... they weighed the pros and cons and pick
    one. It is kinda like moving into a house next to a railroad track
    and then complaining to the railroad because of the noise...you knew
    what you were getting.

    I like what TOP said

    "I would suggest a different approach. All
    users clam up, zip it, cease and desist, stop, halt and be silent.
    This would have the effect of depleting marketing of ideas and let the
    technical guys inside SW who really know how to think through this
    stuff have a voice again. "


    I would however let SWK know about bugs.. but behappy with what you
    get... because you know it is a deal!!!


    Al Whatmough

    Http://www.inspirtech.com - Online SolidWorks training
     
    albert.inspirtech, Feb 13, 2008
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  7. clay

    TOP Guest

    Unlike many vocations, in engineering you are trained and paid to get
    it right. Imagine if marketing designed bridges or skyscrapers.

    An engineer will welcome a failure as a means to see where it went
    wrong and avoid it in the future.

    A marketeer cannot comprehend the term failure or mouth the word and
    therefore cannot learn from it.

    An engineer will find a solution that works and stick with it.

    A marketeer will throw away a solution that works for another that
    looks/feels like it works.

    An engineer will be held responsible for a failure.

    A marketeer will hold someone else responsible for failure.

    TOP
     
    TOP, Feb 15, 2008
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