SW2008 vs Inventor 11

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Joseph, Mar 9, 2008.

  1. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    Ask the vendors you might be getting parts from what component
    libraries for which system they can supply you with.
    Then look at "special" features of each system that could aid
    you in any analysis or simulation tasks that might help you.
    Then consider what is lacking that you might find handy,
    if anything.
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
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  2. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    Are you planning on having any parts made to your design? Ask
    the vendors for those what they like or can use too. Don't forget
    that you may need to translate data to other formats for their
    systems. If they don't have to recreate things/models it's a cost & time
    savings for all.
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
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  3. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    Ignore the useless idiot.
    He uses neither nor any other AFAIK. Doubt he'd
    have a clue what AEC OR machine design is about.
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
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  4. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    Not you.
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
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  5. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    What did you do wrong with the demo video?
    Why are YOU the only one here claiming to have the "problem"?
    You don't have a clue how to use any such, eh?
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
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  6. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    YOU are not a designer either. And never have been.

    Somebody search for his posts about engineers. He hates them
    and anybody else that has clues.
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
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  7. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    CLUE: Paul was probably writing with YOU in mind.
    He gave you far too much credit, if so.

    HTH
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
    #47
  8. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    IOW You just found an ad, not a clue.
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
    #48
  9. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    [
    He pushes UG as THE CAD/CAM solution. Can't think of worse advice for
    many small job shops
    ] - Jon Banquer -

    [
    If I were to guess at this point what system is best it would be UG
    ] - Jon Banquer-
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
    #49
  10. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    "Associativity has no drawbacks that I know of." - Jon Banquer

    "This is the very same asshole who constantly makes the claim that full
    associativity is always needed, despite being told numerous times that it is, in
    FACT, not needed or desired in many cases !!!" - Jon Banquer

    But now he went & busted it .....

    The Zen of the RED button:
    [
    When my mind is deep in the code and I'm standing at the machine
    editing or creating a program I can see the tool in my mind as cuts
    the part. I'm like in another world.
    ] - clueless

    [
    In better shops people know when not to bother you. When
    this happens on a frequent basis it's a good sign that
    perhaps one should move on.
    ] - clueless

    "One word sums it up.....HANDWHEEL"

    I can just hear him pushing a toolbox down the freeway in a hurry ....
    rattle, clank, clank ....
     
    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
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  11. Joseph

    Cliff Guest

    Cliff, Mar 10, 2008
    #51
  12. Joseph

    Joseph Guest

    No. From what I've read on here, you're the one with the problem. I don't
    have any problems doing anything I wish to do with either SW2008, or with
    Inventor R7. If you can't produce working prints with either of these programs,
    you're the one who has problems. What I wanted to know was if Inventor 11
    had surpassed SW2008. I'm trying to decide if it is worth the investment, or
    should I just stick with what I have.

    Again, thanks for nothing!

    Joseph
     
    Joseph, Mar 10, 2008
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  13. Joseph

    Joseph Guest

    Most of my customers use AutoCAD and don't really care how I generate
    files so long as they get them in *.dwg format.

    SW seems to have the market on downloadable components, but you can
    now import most of the these to any modeling program; this wasn't always
    the case.

    I was really just wanting to know if someone was using both current products;
    SW2008 and Inventor R11, and had an opinion on which was better?

    Thanks, Joseph
     
    Joseph, Mar 10, 2008
    #53
  14. Joseph

    gk Guest

    Jonnie, please post where I claimed to be a Solidworks expert. Why do I
    somehow think you can't/won't ever do this? Please don't tell my happy
    customers that I don't know how to use the software and tell them to
    keep sending me the "easy" designs.

    You also forgot to answer the Ironcad question. Must be your reading
    comprehension problems again. BTW, I assume you're keeping busy with
    your "design" work for your "customers", LOL.

    gk
     
    gk, Mar 10, 2008
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  15. Joseph

    gk Guest

    To paraphase Ricky Nelson, "you can't fool everyone, so you've got to
    fool yourself". I believe you've accomplished that, Jonnie.

    gk
     
    gk, Mar 10, 2008
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  16. Joseph

    CS Guest

    Joseph,

    I see you have gotten yourself into a heap of information here most of
    which if bloat and impossible to sift through. I have used both
    Inventer (Only for a little while) and SolidWorks for years.
    Obviously my biast is toward SolidWorks, but I know that as a machine
    engineer either product has the tools to do the job. There is one
    thing about inventor that plain annoys me is that as small as it may
    seem it really slows productivity. You have to Hit F8 every time you
    want to rotate your part and then the rotation is exactly like the
    rotation in AutoCAD then to continue work on your model you have to
    hit F8 again. This makes it nearly impossible to do efficiently model
    using a standard mouse. ( I believe if you use a Space Pilot it
    negates this issue though ) On top of that every Function or form in
    inventor pops up infront of your model. then you have to move it out
    of the way to make your selections. Whereas in SolidWorks everything
    in neatly on the side out of the way. SolidWorks 2008 has many UI
    enhancements that make it's workflow even easier than earlier versions
    which were all quite good in themselves. (though it does take some
    getting used to). If you ask me I would take SolidWorks hands down no
    questions asked. I feel that solidworks makes more efficient use of
    UI space and allows you to minimize clicks and picks. If you don't
    read tips and tricks on this NG and others though you may miss much of
    the built in speed the interface can offer.

    Regards,

    Corey
     
    CS, Mar 11, 2008
    #56
  17. Joseph

    Joseph Guest

    Joseph,

    I see you have gotten yourself into a heap of information here most of
    which if bloat and impossible to sift through. I have used both
    Inventer (Only for a little while) and SolidWorks for years.
    Obviously my biast is toward SolidWorks, but I know that as a machine
    engineer either product has the tools to do the job. There is one
    thing about inventor that plain annoys me is that as small as it may
    seem it really slows productivity. You have to Hit F8 every time you
    want to rotate your part and then the rotation is exactly like the
    rotation in AutoCAD then to continue work on your model you have to
    hit F8 again. This makes it nearly impossible to do efficiently model
    using a standard mouse. ( I believe if you use a Space Pilot it
    negates this issue though ) On top of that every Function or form in
    inventor pops up infront of your model. then you have to move it out
    of the way to make your selections. Whereas in SolidWorks everything
    in neatly on the side out of the way. SolidWorks 2008 has many UI
    enhancements that make it's workflow even easier than earlier versions
    which were all quite good in themselves. (though it does take some
    getting used to). If you ask me I would take SolidWorks hands down no
    questions asked. I feel that solidworks makes more efficient use of
    UI space and allows you to minimize clicks and picks. If you don't
    read tips and tricks on this NG and others though you may miss much of
    the built in speed the interface can offer.
    Thank you! This is the stuff I've been looking for. I've used both programs,
    but not R11. As for SW2007 and Inventor R7 I could model and generate
    prints about equally with both. The biggest thing I didn't like about Inventor
    was having to setup Projects and Paths for each job. SW was much better
    in this area since you just set your paths in the options one time. I also
    liked Inventor better for making drawings. You didn't have to make both
    drawing templates and sheet formats.

    Joseph
     
    Joseph, Mar 11, 2008
    #57
  18. Joseph

    jon_banquer Guest

    Nice paraphrase (which you can't even spell correctly) of a cocaine
    addict, Nuts son.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Mar 11, 2008
    #58
  19. Joseph

    jon_banquer Guest

    You almost always refuse to answer any specific questions, Nuts son.
    That's because you're a Usenet stalker with ten years of posting
    nothing but nonsense.

    Hope This Helps,

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Mar 11, 2008
    #59
  20. Joseph

    jon_banquer Guest

    How would Cliff Huprich know? Just like SolidWorks Cliff Huprich has
    never used Inventor. Cliff Huprich is little more than a fake and has
    been nailed lying so many times it's not funny. He's almost completely
    ignored on alt.machines.cnc where everyone knows he has no recent
    practical machining experience. Cliff Huprich was forcibly retired and
    is unemployable.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Mar 11, 2008
    #60
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