SW2007 toshiba laptop ?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by clay, Nov 4, 2007.

  1. clay

    clay Guest

    I am running SW07 on a Toshiba Satellite P35 (W radeon graphics). the
    radeon supports Open GL. The dynamic spin is worse than bad.

    I have an associate with the same graphics in a Toshiba Satellite M65.
    SW06 is actually usable. I haven't seen SW07 on his laptop yet, might be
    the same problem.

    So is the problem the SW version, or the difference between Laptops?
    Both have graphics that are using shared graphics memory.

    Anyone running SW06 or SW07 on a Toshiba P35, have solution to this?

    ca
     
    clay, Nov 4, 2007
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  2. clay

    ChamberPot Guest

    Problem is the Radeon, fuckwad.

    Daisy.
     
    ChamberPot, Nov 5, 2007
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  3. clay

    clay Guest

    have an associate with the same graphics in a Toshiba Satellite M65. SW06 is actually usable. I haven't seen SW07 on his laptop yet, might be the same problem.
    Daisy,
    Apparently reading comprehension is not high on your capabilities list?

    ca
     
    clay, Nov 6, 2007
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  4. clay

    ChamberPot Guest

    Yeah, I read it. If I had a nickel for everyone coming in here with a
    Radeon who was having problems, but for whatever fukn dumass reason
    refuses to put the blame where it belongs, I'd be retired.

    Would you prefer that I say this:


    Yes, it is a known problem that SolidWorks has intentionally disabled
    the software when a Radeom card is installed. You must download this
    patch http://www.warez.hackz.com/radeomfixr.asp which corrects the problem.



    Did you ever check the specs on a mother board integrated Intel video
    chip? It supports OpenGL. Seriously it does. Does this make it an
    approvbed card? does this mean theres a conspiracey to defraud Intel or
    ATI? Or mabey just fukn dumasses like you. Intel supports OpenGL 1.4. SW
    uses 2.0. There are a lot of levels of what you can mean by the word
    "support".

    Argue if you want, it won't get you anyware/. Replace yer fukn Radeom
    and thing will get better.

    Fuckwad/

    Daisy.
     
    ChamberPot, Nov 6, 2007
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  5. clay

    Cliff Guest

    IIRC This is always a bad sign.
     
    Cliff, Nov 6, 2007
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  6. clay

    clay Guest

    Thanks for the link, man. it was bad, but I figured it out anyway. I'll
    search around for the patch. Got the laptop used, based on my experience
    with the friends machine. Was asking why it maybe works in one, and not
    the other. According to more research, the radeon is not using shared
    memory, but who knows? If I could swap the radeon with an nvidia that
    would be easy. Just wondering if there was a quick fix. if the patch
    doens't work then looks like I need to swap laptops....oh well. Have no
    problem blaming the radeon, I hate them too.

    ca
     
    clay, Nov 6, 2007
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  7. clay

    alphawave Guest

    If you're still having problems after you apply your patch try running
    it in software open GL mode

    Kev
     
    alphawave, Nov 7, 2007
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  8. clay

    Pats Fan Guest

    Does anyone have a good link to the patch?

    I would like to try it on my home computer.
     
    Pats Fan, Nov 7, 2007
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  9. clay

    clay Guest

    No success in finding a radeon soft patch anywhere. The correct link is:

    http://www.warezhackz.com/ Yet I cannot find the radeon patch there.
    There are radeon patches all over the net for the zillion Radeon
    chipsets. Most appear to be for overclocking, not OpenGL. Not
    particularly interested in overclocking a LAPTOP.

    Anyone have a patch or link specifically for the Radeon Mobility
    9600/9700 that fixes the OpenGL? Or has actually done this before?

    ca
     
    clay, Nov 7, 2007
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    jimsym Guest

    The program Daisy was thinking bout is SoftFireGL. It was used to
    unlock the "professional" OpenGL features on Radeon cards.

    I don't think it works with newer Radeons and I'm not sure it ever
    worked with notebooks. In any event, using it is piracy. Developing
    advanced drivers that support SolidWorks, Pro/E and other professional
    apps costs alot of money. Why should you get to use those drivers for
    free while the rest of us pay to use them?

    Either get a notebook that is certified and tested for SolidWorks or
    enable "Use Software OpenGL". (Tools>Options>Performance)
     
    jimsym, Nov 7, 2007
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  11. clay

    clay Guest

    Jim,

    thanks, This sounds like a can of worms to say the least. the radeon
    is the problem, the real solution is to get a different laptop..
    Sotware OpenGL is a good shrot term solution. thanks.

    thanks...
     
    clay, Nov 7, 2007
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  12. clay

    Cliff Guest

    That machine may have the option to add better graphics (card & memory)?
     
    Cliff, Nov 8, 2007
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  13. clay

    Cliff Guest


    http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/toshiba-satellite-p35-s6111/4505-3121_7-31273664.html
    "You can also spend an extra $300 for a better graphics card, the ATI Mobility
    Radeon 9700, which is probably a good idea, since the version we tested, which
    featured an integrated GPU, fell flat in CNET Labs gaming tests. The Toshiba
    Satellite P30 and P35 are basically the same system; you can customize the P30,
    while P35 models come preconfigured."

    IF they are the same system you could probably upgrade it even if it
    is the P35.

    http://ati.de/products/mobilityradeon9700/index.html
    "Supports the Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 programming standard"

    Perhaps not shared memory either ... & there are probably other cards.
     
    Cliff, Nov 8, 2007
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    jimsym Guest

    Notebook graphics are almost never upgradeable. Even it is one of the
    new modular notebooks that could physically accept an upgrade, you
    would have a very difficult time to get the right drivers to work with
    the notebook.
     
    jimsym, Nov 8, 2007
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  15. clay

    clay Guest

    The Software OpenGl did the trick. I would never have considered trying
    that. Thanks for the tip. Problem solved for now.

    Do all of the Nvidia models in Laptops work with SW? Hardware OpenGl?
    How can you tell?

    ca
     
    clay, Nov 8, 2007
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    Anna Wood Guest

    Anna Wood, Nov 9, 2007
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    jimsym Guest

    You actually have to look under the notebook manufacturer on
    SolidWorks graphics card list for supported models.

    Examples...

    HP nw8440, nw 9440, 8510w, 8710w

    Dell Precion M65, M90, M4300, M6300

    Lenovo ThinkPad T61p

    All feature mobile versions of Quadro FX or FireGL graphics.

    Some "second tier" suppliers offer mobile workstations with the same
    graphics. These may or may not work with SolidWorks. Drivers for
    notebooks are only available from the notebook manufacturer and the
    manufacturer may or may not have the right drivers for SolidWorks.
     
    jimsym, Nov 9, 2007
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