SW2004, sketches and feature become suppressed when reopening.

SW Corp,

After reopening files saved in SW2004 sp1, sketches and features become
suppressed.
This is random and totally wacked!!

For instance, sketches are suppressed within features????

Your programming SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

...

 

: SW Corp,
:
: After reopening files saved in SW2004 sp1, sketches and features become
: suppressed.
: This is random and totally wacked!!
:
: For instance, sketches are suppressed within features????
:
: Your programming SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!
:
It's not just that ~ it's that they knew it and sold it anyway. Oh, yeah, they
knew it, they must have known it, no way that anyone with a half a brain and
quarter of an eye couldn't have known it.

Class action, consumer fruad lawsuits, anyone!?! Ooooo, that'll get their
attention. Hey, Salvador, ya gotta mouth, no doubt about that; ya gotta spine to
go with it? Man, that's a devastating combination. Anyone care to join our hero!

David Janes

 

: SW Corp,
:
: After reopening files saved in SW2004 sp1, sketches and features become
: suppressed.
: This is random and totally wacked!!
:
: For instance, sketches are suppressed within features????
:
: Your programming SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!
:
It's not just that ~ it's that they knew it and sold it anyway. Oh, yeah, they
knew it, they must have known it, no way that anyone with a half a brain and
quarter of an eye couldn't have known it.

Class action, consumer fruad lawsuits, anyone!?! Ooooo, that'll get their
attention. Hey, Salvador, ya gotta mouth, no doubt about that; ya gotta spine to
go with it? Man, that's a devastating combination. Anyone care to join our hero!
Hey, sign me up. Oh, and don't leave PTC/Proe out of this, either. Talk about your
used car salesmen.

David Janes

 

Paul:

I've seen this in SP0.0 ... thought I was going nuts...

 

Thanks for verifying this, Jacob!

I thought I was loosing it today so I did a series of saves and opens
and it started to show up.

Also, btw, the new Save Tessellation option turns off and on. GEEZ!,
what's next!??

Paying beta testers = SW subscription users getting the royal shaft!

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David,

Actually, I've been thinking about this, seriously.
I'd be willing to offer my time and my own money to get some San
Francisco law offices involved.

If enough people are willing, maybe 100 initially, and possibly more
will become aware after a public notice, we could then get a significant
petition, at least 1K, to interest some law firm for a class action. We
might also get some developers to make some statements or some past SW
employees too make statements?

There is enough evidence that they are falsely advertising SW as being a
more productive tool from previous releases and repeatedly releasing
regressions per sp and geometry changes per sp and I'm sure there could
be more we could add to the claims...

It will take a few months to compile information for the law
offices,...then we wait..

...it may take a few years, but I would wager a settlement is very
possible.

No bs, this is serious stuff and pursuing this action means committing
time and energy and facts.

Plus, it's going to piss people off and it also will, I think, send a
very strong message to companies selling half baked software and a
message that the paying users are sick and tired of being used as beta
testers and that core issues are more important than marketing fluff and
false advertising.

We pay them,... maybe it's time they paid us for using us as beta
testers??

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OMG, Paul you are like a FRIGGIN mind reader. I was actually going to post
about this same issue this week. I though that it was something that I was
doing. I feel like the friggin weight has been lifted and the light at the
end of the of the tunnel was a train.

Let me know abuot the law suit

 

Arthur and Ken,

I wish I was a mind reader, it could have helped me with a few woman!?

But anyhow, I'm not sure about this being a surface only thing but as
you guys have guessed I'm testing most everything with surface files.
So, it maybe just a surface thing? Then again, Mike just mentioned
sheetmetal had a problem?

Law suit.. posturing in a more serious way I guess but it may be the
only way or hope in making it clear that users can not be used like this
anymore, consistency is a priority and vague misleading marketing will
not be tolerated unless independent facts cover those claims.
Marketing people are more than half of everyone's problem, imo.
I know most of you do not like this or me being a pita and I don't like
it either, I mean that, but it seems to me that over the years,
marketing has been jerking us and companies around way too much.
After using SW2004 sp0 and now sp1, yes, I'm annoyed by the sugar
coating and concerned with the modeling failures and slowness I've
tested,.. yeah, same old same but why? Why does it have to be this
way? Why??

'Tis the season and one thing is constant.. next release promises...
because, they at least give the users hope, but I'm really tired of
getting the same rocks in my annual stocking, yaknow?

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I don't think surfaces or 'curvy stuff' has anything to do with it. I base
this on the fact that we do 99.9% fairly simple sheet metal here and we've
been experiencing the same thing. You can add my name to the perition.

 

The last time we got their attention was when Sporkman started a maintenance
fee boycott. That helped for a little while. Seems to be wearing off,
though. Time to hit them between the eyes again? Maybe with a 4X4 instead of
a 2X4?

Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems

 

Hey Eddy and all,

If you or anyone knows of a good online questionnaire/survey like
Zoomerang, let me know?

Thanks.

 

I find it hard to imagine that video cards and processors have anything to
do with sketches and features becoming suppressed. I've barely started
working in SW04, but my senior partner in crime has been working with it
pretty heavily for a couple of weeks now and has seen it once.
Unfortunately, it was too long ago to remember the particulars. My junior
partner hasn't seen it yet. Might it be tied to configurations? We're
running SP0.

Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems

 

Hey Jerry,

I can only add, none of the files I have tested have configurations.
It is random and not something I can reproduced with any consistency.
For me, it happens only after reopening the file which was just saved,
it has not happened during a sw session.
BTW, from what I understand, it does not seem to be limited to surfaces.

What I'd suggest is, if some one has macro which can check for
suppressed features, it may help with finding a link to what was last
worked on and what then becomes suppressed after the save?

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happened to me last night for the 1st time on a basic prismatic part. using
2004 on a limited basis.

 

this just happened to me on a rather simple model. it is a pretty
outragous bug and as someone said earlier, SW must have known about it
but released it anyway. rather shamefull.

 

it happened to me when creating a "new" part. i saved it, re-opened a few
minutes later, last 3 features were suppressed.

 

no surfaces, simple prismatic part. so far, we aren't movin' to 2004
anytime soon.

 

Is there any chance that it has to do with rolling back or editing a
feature or sketch that causes the model to roll back?

matt

 

Is there any chance that it has to do with rolling back or editing a

no rolling back or editing. just created a new part, laid down some
features, saved and closed. kind of freaked me out when i re-opened. i
tend to stare into the graphics screen when a part loads and when this one
opened, half of it was missing. a quick glance over to the fm and i realized
the last few features had become suppressed somehow.

kb

 

There is a chance that the cause of this has to do with the "Save as PDF"
add in. I have seen the problem when putting new but saved bottom-up parts
into assemblies with multiple windows open via drag and drop.

Try working with the PDF add in turned off. They're working on a SP2 fix
for this problem.

matt.