SW World opinions

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Zander, Sep 29, 2005.

  1. Zander

    neil Guest

    straight! wash your mouth
    ....engineers...dull,dull,dull
     
    neil, Oct 1, 2005
    #21
  2. I wonder if it's too late to get the schedule changed. Before you soundly
    berate me for thinking like an ID person (non-rigid), think about this -
    each year there are changes all the way up to the end. So at least it's
    worth pointing out to someone at SW that the schedule appears to have some
    possibilities for improvement, and would they please consider the changes.
    The most they can say is NO! Maybe Ed or Matt have enough pull to make it
    happen! :)

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Oct 1, 2005
    #22
  3. Zander

    TOP Guest

    Pea-shooter with cloves. And I'll wear a disguise. Probably a beard or
    something.
     
    TOP, Oct 1, 2005
    #23
  4. Zander

    TOP Guest

    I found a way today. It is kind of a bummer because us early birds
    will probably miss it when they do get the site up and miss
    registration for the good stuff. Not just Sunday, but all week. A word
    to the wise. As usual they will be asking for a short list of your
    thoughts that you will share in the session. Be preparing. Solid
    examples would be very helpful in getting selected.
     
    TOP, Oct 1, 2005
    #24
  5. Zander

    Zander Guest

    Hi Top,

    I assume you've been to the sunday sessions before? As I mentioned by
    doing the cswp exam on sunday I miss that whole day. How important are
    they in the big picture?

    Zander
     
    Zander, Oct 1, 2005
    #25
  6. Zander

    ed1701 Guest

    I agree that the scheduling conflicts as you described them are really,
    really unfortunate (note: I have not personally checked the times yet
    to see the extent of the conflicts).
    I raised a stink about such scheduling conflcts in the past and somehow
    got to the point where I was even asked to review the schedule last
    year before it was set to help identify such conflicts. They had
    developed the concept of setting up tracks, so (for instance) if you
    were a moldmaker you could go to a mold-session almost every session.
    Scheduling is a really tough job, but Allison pulled it off last year
    and it went well.
    Unforunatley, as I understand when I last talked SWx World in March or
    so, the person who set up the schedules the last few years has moved on
    to a different responsibilities in SWx. It never occurred to me that
    we might have to start over with this scheduling conflict stuff.

    I don't know if I have pull, but I have names and phone numbers and I
    can be annoying. I'll take a look at the schedule and see if there is
    anything I can do, because it would be a shame not to try to get those
    conflicts out of there (if it is even possible- for instance, there
    might be so many sheetmetal sessions that two have to go head-to-head)
    -Ed.
     
    ed1701, Oct 3, 2005
    #26
  7. Yea, but I'm next to you, he'll probably catch on....

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Oct 3, 2005
    #27
  8. Zander

    Ben Eadie Guest

    Good grief as an engineer you should at least understand the idea of
    stress risers and why straight lines can be the root of all evil
     
    Ben Eadie, Oct 3, 2005
    #28
  9. Zander

    adamek Guest

    Sounds like a classic tactic of convention organizers. If you have lots
    of small program rooms, but only a few big room, you put some of the
    big items at identical times in smaller rooms.

    If there were no other big items at the same time, the attendance for
    the big item would overwhelm the room. Scheduling multiple big items
    simultaneously spreads out the crowd.
     
    adamek, Oct 3, 2005
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  10. Zander

    BoC Guest

    So where are the el-cheapo tents for God's sake?

    Yeah this is a metaphorical question as one can't do that reliably in
    the Las Vegas sun, but it they want us to attend and learn, then we
    have to get "IN THE SESSIONS".

    I think sometimes SolidWorks Corp. looks at conventions as something
    that is set up to SOLEY BENEFIT THEM AND THEIR RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR
    VARS.

    We customers pay every single bill that the support the VARS and
    SolidWorks.

    The customer MUST COME FIRST.

    Am I wrong? OK, I must ask, am I crazy, and the customer is NOT #1?

    Bo
     
    BoC, Oct 3, 2005
    #30
  11. Zander

    TOP Guest

    So they don't want me standing in the hall like last time.

    In Orlando some of the rooms were big, but so long you needed
    binoculars if you sat more than 1/3 of the way back from the front row.


    Anybody seen a floor plan of Caesar's Palace convention center.

    Maybe they should put a one armed bandit outside the door and give
    entry tokens based on pure chance.
     
    TOP, Oct 3, 2005
    #31
  12. Zander

    TOP Guest

    John and all,

    Here is the response I got. So I guess the really early birds and the
    not so early birds will be on the same footing.

    Hi Paul,

    We will be emailing all registrants for SolidWorks World 2006 later
    this
    week when session preference selection is live.

    ,,,snip
     
    TOP, Oct 3, 2005
    #32

  13. Thanks, Ed! Good luck.

    I was going to make your job harder, by going through what is on offer and
    coming up with more conflicts, but I decided that the ones I listed were the
    only ones that I was really concerned about. No doubt you, or some of the
    others who are going, will find some more. The good news/bad news is that
    even with three of us going, we can't cover more than half of the
    presentations that I think would be worth seeing!

    One thing I noticed was the large number of sessions on handling large
    assemblies and drawings and another large group dealing with layout sketches
    and external references. Those two groups seem to be spread out pretty well.

    Another interesting point is that I don't see any repeat sessions. Great
    from a "lots of content" view, but it makes the conflicts even more
    agonizing, with no possibility of catching a later session.

    Finally, there are no sessions scheduled for Wednesday morning (my one
    chance to see the Partner Pavilion?) or in the last Wednesday afternoon
    session (everyone wants to leave early?).

    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Oct 4, 2005
    #33
  14. Zander

    TOP Guest

    Regarding when the session selections will be made:

    ....the decision will be made no later than
    November 15th.
     
    TOP, Oct 4, 2005
    #34
  15. Zander

    BoC Guest

    OK, so lets summarize.

    Pay big bucks to go to get the sessions, but SWCP keeps you from seeing
    them, and there are so many sessions, you can't hope to get all your
    picks in and sometimes small rooms w/o enough seats, and then
    auditoriums where you can't see well unless you have the good seats.

    So, with the known limitations, surely SolidWorks gives every paying
    user to the sessions a DVD of ALL THE SESSIONS, right...? Come on and
    tell me I am right.

    Bo
     
    BoC, Oct 4, 2005
    #35
  16. Zander

    matt Guest


    They have in the past provided a CD with all of the powerpoint
    presentations and sample files from each presenter. I have found these
    pretty valuable.
     
    matt, Oct 4, 2005
    #36
  17. Zander

    BoC Guest

    Matt, thanks much. That is what I want to hear, at the very least.

    But given the nature of digital information today, and we are NOT
    talking staged shows, just a video camera running, a set of DVDs should
    surely be possible, and I would even pay a few dollars more for them.

    I hope SolidWorks considers it.

    Bo
     
    BoC, Oct 4, 2005
    #37
  18. Zander

    TOP Guest

    I've never had a real problem scheduling in all that I wanted to
    attend. Once or twice in the last five SWW I've been unable to get into
    a room. I've had to stand a half dozen times. With the current spate
    of restrictions on public places they cannot let you stand in a room
    anymore.

    There has alway been a CD. Previous year provided it at the beginning
    of the show. Last year they tried sending it after the show, but they
    took so long the residual memories faded a lot.

    You also have to bear in mind that there aren't a lot of convention
    centers that can accommodate 2,000 people in the proper size classroom.
    SW sometimes doesn't know which ones will be well attended and which
    will not. Caesar's Palace Hotel only holds 2,400 rooms IIRC. SWW may
    utilize half their capacity.
     
    TOP, Oct 4, 2005
    #38
  19. Zander

    Sean Dotson Guest

    I'm mainly an Inventor user and I attended last year in Orlando. It was a
    GREAT show. Some of the classes were a bit hard to get into (the rooms were
    way too small) but overall I had a great time and learned a lot.
     
    Sean Dotson, Oct 6, 2005
    #39
  20. Zander

    ed1701 Guest

    Richard Doyle contacted me and I had a conference call with him and two
    of the SolidWorks World organizers. We discussed some of the more
    worrisome conflicts and they are going to see what they can do. I
    called out 14 conflcits that jumped out at me, reinforcing that they
    have to think hard about the guy going to the show when making the
    schedule.
    For instance, the engineering manager looking at purchasing a PDM
    system is probably going to want to see an intro session, an advanced
    session on customizing pdm (to see what he can do with it down the
    line) and might be very interested in a session about how to manage
    large assemblies WITHOUT pdm. Ooops - all three sessions are at the
    same time.
    To their credit, scheduling this sort of thing is a b*** - there are
    only so many rooms, some sessions are one hour while others are 1.5,
    there are only 3 hands-on rooms, some people present multiple times,
    etc. I don't think I would want the job of making that schedule.
    There is probably no way that all the conflicts will go away, but they
    are definatley going to try. I guess its a couple of weeks until they
    open up online sign-up for sessions,so there is still time for them to
    make some of the conflicts go away.
     
    ed1701, Oct 7, 2005
    #40
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