SW & SpaceVision

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Wayne Tiffany, May 3, 2005.

  1. We are having to deal with a package called SpaceVision, which used to be a
    proprietary product of Nissan Motor, but is now offered to the public. I
    have not found a way to get this info into SolidWorks. Does anyone have any
    experience with these files?

    A .drg file appears to be the native file format, and a .wrl is a VRML
    format, but neither SW nor UG will open it. The only outputs I see are a
    bitmap (not much use, obviously) and a binary output. However, I can't get
    SW to open the binary file. Any thoughts?

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, May 3, 2005
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  2. Wayne Tiffany

    MM Guest

    Wayne,

    Real confused here,,, I'ts a CAD system ????? Can't find anything about it
    on google.

    And it has no neutral output ??? (STEP, IGES, etc,)

    Or,, your expected to read it's native output into SW
    ????????????????????????????

    SW can open a binary file ??????? What kind of binary file ???? Parasolid
    x_b ??????

    You've been doing this stuff much too long to expect any useful information
    from this sketchy description. Cmon man... fill in the blanks


    Regards

    Mark
     
    MM, May 3, 2005
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  3. Wayne Tiffany

    Muggs Guest

    Wayne,

    Doing a search for .drg file extension at www.filext.com turned up someyhing
    called Dyno2000 Car Design .

    If you go to there website, it looks like its some kind of engine simulation
    program.

    Sorry, no real information,
    Muggs
     
    Muggs, May 3, 2005
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  4. Yeah, I know I left several holes, but that's the problem - I told you about
    all I know about it. There isn't even a help menu in the package. I also
    found basically nothing on a Google search except something related to OGL
    settings for video.

    So, with that being said, let me try to give you more info. It is a CAD
    system that I think is probably on a scale with Catia in that Nissan uses it
    to design their vehicles, and used to be proprietary to them. But File/Save
    As only gives the option of the native .drg. File/Export has the option to
    save as Binary, which produces a file with a .bin extension. However, SW
    doesn't recognize the file at all. I even tried to rename it with a .x_t
    extension, just on a fluke that it might work - it didn't. Obviously I
    don't know what the format is of the "binary" file - only that SW, UG, and
    Catia all don't recognize it.

    There is a Tree export which blows apart an assy into individual files (.bin
    format) but that doesn't help much.

    So, those appear to be the only meaningful outputs (others are bitmap, color
    table, etc.) and I don't seem to be able to use them.

    We have sent an email to Japan to ask about IGES output or some other module
    that maybe we don't have, but I am told we won't hear anything this week as
    they are all on vacation. I'm also not too hopeful about being able to get
    somewhere. A few years ago we got some engine files from Nissan, but I'm
    told that the US people gave them a trip through IDEAS to export a STEP
    file. So, I guess I'll have to wait & see what we learn from Japan, I just
    thought there might be a chance that someone else had already been through
    this.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, May 3, 2005
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  5. Wayne Tiffany

    MM Guest

    Wayne,

    Good luck,, I worked for a Japanese company for 10 years. CAD data
    translation (even between divisions) was always a major pain. Even plain
    communication was difficult.

    The Japanese are obssesively secretive, and won't divulge information even
    when it's in there best interest. For instance, we had a set of tools
    (molds) to duplicate for an OEM product that was already running in Japan.
    Our japanese counterparts sent us CAD drawings of the tools. What we didn't
    know was that the drawings had never been updated after the original tools
    were made. There were alot of tweaks made to the original design to
    compensate for warp, and other things. Turns out, the marked up drawings
    were in the tooling engineer's "secret" file, and it was unthinkable that he
    should have to share them. This was totally acceptable from their cultural
    viewpoint. Well, we had no choice but to repeat all of the trial and error
    tweaking to finally get good parts. The tools ended up costing the company
    over twice as much. I guess this was OK to them. Go figure,,,


    Regards

    Mark
     
    MM, May 3, 2005
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  6. Wayne Tiffany

    cadcoke3 Guest

    VRML seems to be a path you can use. Several CAD and animation
    packages will import VRML. Do you have any other CAD programs that
    might open the VRML and then export something else you can get into
    Solidworks? I can see one potential problem...I think VRML is a mesh
    format, and solidworks doesn't accept that at all. (I am currently
    trying to get mesh models from AutoCAD into SW.)

    Polytrans (by OKINO) is a program just for file translation and has a
    lot of options for converting. However, I have only used an older
    version.

    Joe Dunfee
     
    cadcoke3, May 4, 2005
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