Well the engineer left for a better job. It was a good move for him but not for me...:) I worked with SW 2004 for some time before but now need to get up to speed on SW2006, them on the 2007 most likely... Stuck on the hole wizard stuff. Looks to be a real time saver,but... Building a drive roll for a machine and need to put two 1/4-20 set screws 90 deg. apart in the side of a Round Disk.... I.E. pulley. I seem to remember just sketching on the round surface back in 2004, but it has been awhile. Just how does one go about dimensioning/positioning a point on the outside surface that the hole wizard will accept? Have tried sketching a circle and extruding, sketching the shape and revolving... doesn't seem to mater.. Are there any tutorials for the hole wizard? It is just amazing how an old machinist can get dependant on a new engineer....:) st