Surface Tools... What's Really Needed

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by jon banquer, Jan 27, 2005.

  1. jon banquer

    Cliff Guest

    Too bad you've never seen it then, right?
     
    Cliff, Jan 31, 2005
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  2. jon banquer

    Cliff Guest

    But you are more than happy to pose, right?
    As long as you don't use it or know much about it.
    Unlike you .....
    Unlike you .....
    Unlike you .....
    Who told you about all of this? LOL ....
     
    Cliff, Jan 31, 2005
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  3. jon banquer

    Cliff Guest

    Because you don't have a clue?
     
    Cliff, Jan 31, 2005
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  4. jon banquer

    datac Guest

    Thanks Jon,
    I'll have to dig up my CD and see whats on it. The main manual you get
    is pretty intensive.... We'll check out the one(s) on the CD.
    Thanks again,
    Chris L
     
    datac, Feb 1, 2005
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  5. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest

    Feel free to e-mail me if you can't find it, Chris. ;>)

    jon
     
    jon banquer, Feb 1, 2005
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  6. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest


    The $50 is money well spent.

    For those who want to understand the basics of creating quality
    curves and surfaces I would highly recommend reading Rhino Level
    Two training.


    jon
     
    jon banquer, Feb 1, 2005
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  7. jon banquer

    Cliff Guest

    How would you know?
    When are you going to?
     
    Cliff, Feb 1, 2005
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  8. They told me:
    ThinkiD $18k
    ThinkDesign $4k
    ThinkDesign Plus $6k
    plus 15% per year for maintenance
     
    biomed_eng_2000, Feb 2, 2005
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  9. jon banquer

    Cliff Guest

    ~3,000 per year an top of all of that or it just
    stops working, making all your saved parts totally
    useless?

    No CAM capabilities at all? Much less full
    5 axes ...?

    Any applications programming or is that extra as
    well, if even available (is it?)?

    LMAO !!! Clueless Buzzword King strikes again.
     
    Cliff, Feb 3, 2005
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  10. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest

    Are you currently using thinkID or thinkDesign ?

    What do you think of Global Shape Modeling ?


    jon
     
    jon banquer, Feb 3, 2005
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  11. jon banquer

    Cliff Guest

    Cliff, Feb 3, 2005
    #31
  12. Cliff,
    spent 3 hours with the VX demo guy this morning. We went over only the
    surfacing and mold cavity capabilities. Cool program.

    As a note, for ThinkiD and ThinkDesign, once you buy it, you don't have
    to keep on paying maintenance for it to still work. They changed their
    model to be like everyone elses CAD software.
     
    biomed_eng_2000, Feb 4, 2005
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  13. uhm... i don't use icem software, but since it's that famous and
    well-known, i guess they'll hardly well me their .com domain... :)

    have a good day :)
     
    Gianni Rondinini, Feb 4, 2005
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  14. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest


    LOL

    Perhaps it's time for your company to change to ICEM Surf so your
    material handling equipment won't look so box like and will have really
    slick curves ?

    I checked out your website :

    http://www.icem.it/en/en_prod_intro.html

    It looks like an American car from the 70's ! :>)

    If you can't cope with ICEM sharing your name then I have just the
    thing for you, Gianni....

    http://www.vx.com/cust/naccorema.pdf


    I say time to make the switch to VX..... NOW before it's to late !!! ;>)

    On a serious note.... I understand thinkDesign is very big in
    Italy. Have you seen thinkID / thinkDesign ?


    jon
     
    jon banquer, Feb 5, 2005
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  15. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest

    FACTS don't get in the way of "The Virus's" agenda. :>)

    "The Virus" even had it wrong about not being able to open parts /
    assemblies designed in thinkDesign / thinkID under the old sales
    model where you had to renew every year.

    You could still open them you just could not make changes.

    jon
     
    jon banquer, Feb 5, 2005
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  16. jon banquer

    Cliff Guest

    Heard of a new demo, did you?

    Reread some of the posts from *actual users* in
    years gone by.

    LOL ...
     
    Cliff, Feb 5, 2005
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  17. well, actually it's a matter of costs and robustness/toughness more
    than ability to design something looking beautiful. if we produced
    coaches/buses --like officine padane or neoplan or setra or whoever
    else--, it would be far easier: those products are 300k+ euros each
    and nice designs are more compatible with very expensive products than
    with cheap ones.
    in our market --electronic pallet trucks, stackers, vert./horiz. order
    pickers and so on-- you often loose a selling for 30/50 euros and
    producing "nice" products is hardly compatible with low costs.
    what is more, we're specialized in producing customized products
    --longer or shorter, wider or narrower, thicker or thinner forks, wide
    or narrow bodies, high capacity (up to 10 tons)-- and since we often
    produce unique machines it would be impossible to adopt nice
    covers/bodies.

    and we cannot even use plastic covers/parts, because if you buy a
    toyota or linde pallet truck and you break a plastic cover every 2
    weeks, you pay for the spare part and are happy with it. if you buy an
    icem pallet truck and you break a plastic cover after 6 months, i
    receive a letter from your lawyer :)
    oh, i *love* american --muscle-- cars from late 60's / early 70's ;)

    but, joking apart, my products must be, first of all, functional,
    reliable, robust and, as much as possible, cheap. i'd love to move to
    beautyful looking bodies, but they're so expensive that we cannot
    afford them.

    i'll do my best to improve our products design :)

    and one more --and last-- thing: at the moment the website isn't very
    nice, but it's temporary, we're working on the new one.
    i've never heard of it, but i stopped reading/following the cad/addons
    market in late 1998, when we started using swx. it may be very popular
    nowadays, but at that time i can't remember of it.

    cheers!
     
    Gianni Rondinini, Feb 7, 2005
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