Standards and Network Control

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Autodesk, May 15, 2004.

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    Autodesk Guest

    My company has decided to get serious about CAD standards. This I understand
    perfectly, Since Our offices are
    all over the East Coast and share resources, details, and disciplines it
    only makes sense.
    Their first move was to standardize Company Title Blocks and configure all
    Plotters throughout each office
    so everyone plots the same and the look is the same. They adopted the AIA
    Layer standard and I being the
    Office CAD Manager police my CAD Techs to adhere to these standards. This
    all makes perfect sense.

    Now they have decided to to configure all LDD CAD machines by updating the
    Windows Registry File to point to
    their main server for all AutoCAD Support, Fonts, PlotStyles, Express Tools,
    Template, Menu, and Plotter Directories.
    This means no one can Customize Buttons, Pulldowns, or Profiles. Everyone
    uses the same .mnu and .pgp files.

    While CAD Standards are very important, I think that telling all CAD
    Designers that you have to all use
    the keyboard, the mouse and LDD all the same way is going a bit to far.
    after all, wasn't AutoCAD
    designed to be customizable for each indivisual user.
     
    Autodesk, May 15, 2004
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    Anne Brown Guest

    Hi -

    Would you please change your log in name to something other than
    "Autodesk"? Don't want your posts confused with those from
    Autodesk personnel. Thanks.

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    Anne Brown, May 16, 2004
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    F. Gump Guest

    the keyboard, the mouse and LDD all the same way is going a bit to far.

    I agree. Can't you find a compromise so that each user has his or her own
    PGP file, and custom menu, to which they can edit?
     
    F. Gump, May 17, 2004
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    whorton Guest

    Welocome to my world, I would add to the list the manager knows little about AutoCAD and is a big into Microstation
     
    whorton, May 17, 2004
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    popeye Guest

    I agree; it is 'going too far', and it will come back and bite them in the
    bum because it affects PEOPLE -- new people will be on a slower learning
    curve, it prevents existing people from expanding their skills portfolio by
    being able to overcome problmes in different ways, it makes the company less
    of a prospect for those who want to advance -- I mean, what will they do
    when the next release comes out? It's going to affect PRODUCTIVITY and
    hence PROFITS as well as being able to make DEADLINES.

    I whole-heartedly agree that draughting standards should be consistent, good
    and simple, whether international standards or in-house company branding is
    concerned... I also agree whole-heartedly that CAD standards be consistent,
    good and simple (but that the project comes before the company's in-house
    methods).

    But making people DO things in a restricted way? That's crazy, and has
    eff-all to do with cad or drawing standards, and indeed will impact on the
    business!

    For example, I know a chap who types L [return] , draws a line, offsets it,
    fillets with another and so forth. It suits him, so it's fine. Another
    chap might use the menu pull-downs. So what? If the task was repetitive I
    would be thinking of doing a block, drafting a lisp or maybe a button macro!

    There is no single correct way of doing CAD; the answer always is 'it
    depends on what is needed'. Office practices should be left to those who do
    the work and use the software. IT departments know eff-all about software
    programs too. When will companies learn to play to their strengths? When
    will firms realise that the office systems and sub-sytems as there to
    SUPPORT the workers, not to clip their wings?

    What was (is) clearly needed at this company is better communication, a bit
    of research, some feedback, a few e-mails, perhaps a suggestion box, and
    someone to think it through -- to design a best fit all package BEFORE
    laying down a law that will make them UNCOMPETITIVE and undesirable.

    (end of soapbox ranting) I thank you!
     
    popeye, May 18, 2004
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  6. On the network, create a directory in which each user has a folder with
    their login name. In this folder, there is a copy of the .pgp and the
    standard menu files so that users can modify toolbars, etc. Move this path
    to the top in the file structure, with the main path for the program files
    below it. Worked great for us. Management approval.....well best of luck
    to you on that. Good luck.

    --
    John Michalik
    Drafting and Design
    LDD/CAD Development & Standards

    about AutoCAD and is a big into Microstation
     
    John Michalik, May 24, 2004
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    patrick_aps Guest

    On the other hand,
    having all users use the same mouse (hardware and driver)
    the same buttons on the same place and the same PGP can
    -> cut costs in support (especially if they can't edit the main ACAD menu any more)
    -> be very easy for newbies to learn from colleques
    -> can be very handy if a user has to witch from PC
    But starting out with the same PGP and user menu for everyone can be a compromize.
     
    patrick_aps, Jun 1, 2004
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  8. Good points. As far as the pgp and menus, everyone is given a copy of the
    standard 'out of the box' setup when they are configured. Pgp's get changed
    quickly for simple stuff like 't' for trim, 'c' for copy instead of circle,
    etc., but it is amazing to find out how many people think they have to have
    a copy of the menus that they can modify and then never do once given the
    opportunity. Some of it is just perception and head games I think. Around
    here at least, I think most people would LIKE the customization, but are too
    lazy to do it themselves, so it doesn't happen, and we end up far less
    fragmented than you might believe at first. It's been an interesting study
    if nothing else!

    --
    John Michalik
    Drafting and Design
    LDD/CAD Development & Standards

    compromize.
     
    John Michalik, Jun 2, 2004
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