I have format formula for ssget with "F" (this below),but for "E" I still got problem,any help me,thanks. _$ (setq pt1 '(0.0 0.0 0.0)) (setq pt2 '(5.0 5.0 0.0)) (setq pt3 '(4.0 1.0 0.0)) (setq pt4 '(2.0 6.0 0.0)) (setq ss (ssget "_F" (list pt2 pt3 pt4))) (setq en (ssname ss 0)) (setq ent (entget en)) (setq entname (cdr (assoc 0 ent))) (setq entpos (cdr (assoc 10 ent))) (0.0 0.0 0.0) (5.0 5.0 0.0) (4.0 1.0 0.0) (2.0 6.0 0.0) <Selection set: c7> <Entity name: 1484230> ((-1 . <Entity name: 1484230>) (0 . "POINT") (330 . <Entity name: 14840f8>) (5 . "5E") (100 . "AcDbEntity") (67 . 0) (410 . "Model") (8 . "0") (100 . "AcDbPoint") (10 3.0 3.5 0.0) (210 0.0 0.0 1.0) (50 . 0.0)) "POINT" (3.0 3.5 0.0)