spectre pnoise / timedomain - unexpected results

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by oliver, Dec 3, 2006.

  1. oliver

    oliver Guest

    Hi all,

    I have run a basic pnoise simulation of an ideal sine wave in series
    with a 603.6 kohm resistance generating a 100nV/sqrt(Hz) white noise.

    When plotting the output noise, the spectral density given by the
    pnoise/sources and the pnoise/modulated (USB/LSB) is 100nV/sqrt(Hz)
    as expected.

    However the spectral density given by the pnoise/timedomain is
    458.4 nV/sqrt(Hz) in both time and frequency domains [but the density
    is flat vs time and frequency as expected].

    I have tried in cadence versions 5.0.33_USR3 and 5.10.41_USR3: they
    give the same result.

    Does anyone have an idea why the noise given by the PNOISE/TIMEDOMAIN
    is higher than expected?

    Thanks.
    Oliver.
     
    oliver, Dec 3, 2006
    #1
  2. Are you sweeping the frequency above half the pss fundamental in the timedomain
    pnoise simulation? Because timedomain noise is sampling the output (at the same
    rate as the pss - it strobes the noise at a timepoint in the period), you cannot
    sweep above half the pss fundamential - otherwise you get aliasing from this
    sampling process.

    Regards,

    Andrew.
     
    Andrew Beckett, Jan 9, 2007
    #2
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