Sparameters

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by mariam_telnet, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. Hello to all,

    Can any person tell me the diffrence between computing the gain of an
    RF circuit with a Sparam simulation and an AC simulation?

    NB: I find always a diffrence between S21 and the gain obtained by an
    AC simulation.

    Thank you.
     
    mariam_telnet, Nov 26, 2007
    #1
  2. mariam_telnet

    oliver Guest

    Hi,

    AC simulation considers voltages and currents whereas s-parameter
    considers incident and reflected power waves.

    Let's say you have a quadripole Q with voltage v1 and current i1 at
    the inputs and v2, i2 at the output (current going into Q).

    In S-parameters you would define an incident power wave a1 and
    reflected one b1 at the input, and alike a2, b2 at the output.
    The S-parameters are defined as:
    S11= b1/a1 @a2=0, S22= b2/a2 @ a1=0, S21= b2/a1 @ a2=0 <- the
    "gain", S12 = b1/a2 @ a1=0

    I can be shown that you have:
    v1 = sqrt(Zo) x ( a1 + b1)
    and i1 = ( a1 - b1 ) / sqrt(Zo) at the input, where Zo is the
    characteristic impedance (usually 50ohm)
    same thing at the output w/ v2, i2, a2, b2 [ S-parameters are
    always defined relative to a given Zo ].

    If Q is made of an input impedance Ze, and a voltage-controlled
    voltage source (controlled by the input voltage)
    with gain G in series with impedance Zs at the output (unidirectional
    quadripole), you get:

    S11 = (Ze-Zo)/(Ze+Zo)
    S22 = (Zs-Zo)/(Zs+Zo)

    S21 = G/2 x (1+S11) x (1-S22).

    Thus, if you define an AC-simulation gain as v2/v1 when Q is unloaded
    and driven by an ideal voltage source, v2/v1=G, but S21 is not
    equal to G.

    Let's take the specific case where Q has infinite input impedance and
    zero output impedance (simply a vcvs source in spectre) , the
    AC-simulation voltage gain is G - whatever the load and source
    impedances -, but the S-parameters give you:
    S11= 1
    S22= -1
    S12= 0
    S21= 2G !

    AC voltage or power gains are linked to s-parameter S21 gain, but not
    equal to it.

    Actually you can find conversion tables betwen a S-parameter matrix
    and h-parameter / y-parameter matrices defining the quadripole
    propertiies.
     
    oliver, Nov 26, 2007
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