sp2.1 CTRL copy components in assembly

Is there some new trick to make copies of components in an assembley?
What I did before was select a component (screw) and hold down the
CTRL key then drag and drop. Now it seems if I do the same thing I
have to wait for an extended amount of time till it shows a preview.
Is there a faster way? This is a joke.

 

i have no problems using sp0

then again, there's always the old way, ctrl+drag from fm

 

I don't think the preview is the problem. The problem is that SW has
once agin changed UI behavior (for some unknown reason) and the result
is user frustration.

Previously, when you CTRL-dragged a component in an assembly, the part
was dropped in place regardless of what order you released the mouse
button and the CTRL key. The new, *stupid* behavior is that you *must*
release the mouse button before releasing the CTRL key. If you do not,
the component is not copied.

It is ingrained in my muscle memory (and probably yours) to simply let
go of the button and key simultaneously. I still get it wrong on
occasion, even after using the 2004 Beta since last summer.

Another place where the same stupidity has been applied is centermarks
in drawings. Place 20 center marks and then hit ESC. They *all*
disappear. Completely different behavior from previous versions. Earth
to SW corporate:

"ESC does *NOT* mean undo."


Jim S.

 

I wonder if the wait time is dependent on the size of the assy and/or part.
I just tried it with a small assy and it was as fast as I could move the
mouse. Yes, you have to hold CTRL until after releasing the mouse, but it
worked.

Centermarks now disappear, but at least blocks don't any more.

WT

 

Nope, sorry - we're on 2.1 and it's still there.

WT

 

In 2004 SP2.1
If you put in "Center Lines" and hit ESC they DON'T disappear!
If you put in "Dowel Pin Symbols" and hit ESC they DON'T disappear!
If you put in "Dimensions" and hit ESC they DON'T disappear!
It seems only the "Center Marks" follow this behavior!
I took a screen shot of a SW drawing.
The Center Marks don't even follow the size listed in the FM!
take a look: http://www.jacobsdesigns.com/sw2004_center-marks.htm

What gives?

 

I un into this bug with almost every drawing I create, but it is a
know bug and listed to be fixed in SP3.

SPR# 197904: Hitting the escape key after inserting a centermark
should not delete the centermark. Should just end the command.

Todd

 

IT is not only 2.1 it is the same in 2.0

You have to release the mouse button before the control button.

a complete pain in the @$$.

Todd Anderson

 

And then there are some commands that tell you "The current operation
cannot be interrupted..." if you try to end them with ESC.

matt

 

Am-I the only one here that sometimes ctrl-select different components to
add a mate, and end up with a copy of a component because I moved the mouse
while its button is pressed?

I think that must be the reason for this change. Even if it's not that much
of a problem.

 

Not sure where people are getting this CTRL + drag & release UI change
behavior -it has not changed from what I can tell - the fact that you
release the mouse button first has been true for as long as I can remember.
I just tested it in 2003 & it is the same way - you always let go of the
mouse first. This only makes sense as the ctrl key is the copy command so
if you let go of the "copy command" (ctrl key) it is going to stop the copy.
even in windows, to copy a file, you must let go of the mouse button first
in order to copy the file when Ctrl+dragging it.

Are we talking about a specific area of the software where it is possible to
have released the ctrl key first?

let me know.
Steve Tietz

 

I just played a bit and it's interesting that if you select one thing, as in
a face to mate, and then <CTRL>select another, they both, of course are
highlighted. But if you drag the mouse a bit while still <CTRL>selecting
the second one, it goes into copy mode for the second one. And at that
point, you can smartmate it to something as normal. However, if you just
drop it, and then let go of the mouse & keys, both of the original part
selected faces are still there and ready for the original mate that started
the whole process. Not sure if you would ever remember that trick in the
heat of the battle, but interesting nonetheless.

Of course this all fits with the question of when do you release the <CTRL>
key vs. dragging & clicking. If you <CTRL>select drag the face, you are in
copy mode and then if you release the mouse button first, you get the copy.
However if you release the <CTRL> key first it drops you back to multiple
select mode.

WT