Solidworks... WTF?!!!!

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Eric Swartz, Jan 12, 2004.

  1. Eric Swartz

    Eric Swartz Guest

    Hello McFly?!!! Do you guys have any clue what it takes to upgrade
    your software on multiple workstations? Did you people even consider
    the fact most IS departments would probably like to upgrade remotely?!
    The administrative image option sucks too. Now, I have to go to
    every workstation to upgrade them since it won't accept accessing the
    CD over the network... and then it takes F'in forever!

    And what's with the crap you can't even install Solidworks 2004 if you
    have toolbox on the network and it's in use? Did you think that maybe
    some IS staffs might like to work normal hours too?

    And then... to top it all off... you pull a service pack off the web
    to fix it... so now we have to go through all this crap again! I
    thought progress meant getting better... you guys are regressing in a
    big way and I expect you're going to begin losing customers (at least
    not gaining new ones) if you don't make it easier to administrate the
    software. And lets not forget the fact 2004 has gone backwards in
    speed! We have the most powerful workstations on the market and our
    productivity has noticeably decreased (not to mention coplaints have
    skyrocketed) from 2003 because of the inefficiency in drawings w/ 2004
    over 2003.

    And another thing... what's w/ upgrading the toolbox database w/ a
    service pack?! So now I have no choice but to upgrade everyone at the
    same time! I can't even test the service pack first?!

    I can't imagine what companies w/ 30-40 users have to go through. Oh
    yeah... I almost forgot! If it's so detrimental to Solidworks if you
    install or upgrade while virus protection software is running... why
    don't you REQUIRE (key word... require) it to be disabled before
    installing or upgrading? Other vendors can do it... why not you?

    Sincerely,

    A Dissapointed Solidworks Customer
     
    Eric Swartz, Jan 12, 2004
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  2. Eric Swartz

    Per O. Hoel Guest

    I am absolutely shocked at how it can take so MUCH longer to apply a
    service pack through the Installer than it does to install and
    configure SolidWorks 2004 in the first place.

    What good is the rollback option, for example, when the process often
    causes certain program options (and third party add-ins) to no longer
    work properly.

    Frankly, I never ran into such difficulty when simply using the
    Traditional Install method. Sure reverting to an earlier service pack
    meant reinstalling; however, it was still faster and more reliable
    than with WI, even if multiple SPacks had to be reapplied. The Windows
    Installer method only allows for reverting to the previous SP - if a
    user needs to go back further, then the supposed "advantage" is lost,
    since reinstallation is required then as well.

    Perhaps, since it's late in the day, I'm tired and missing something.
    Out of curiosity I just looked for the modify option to revert to
    SP1.0 (via the Add/Remove Programs Control Panel) and don't see it as
    I did for reverting from 1.0 to 0.

    Has the rollback option evaporated with 2.0?

    Per O. Hoel
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    Per O. Hoel, Jan 12, 2004
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  3. Eric Swartz

    Eric Swartz Guest


    To answer your question Mike... I know my VAR has multiple computers,
    probably each running a different service pack. It also allows him to
    troubleshoot w/ different hardware configurations as well I suppose.

    I'm sure there are people out there who are happy w/ the WI, probably
    the same people who pushed Swx in that direction. I'd be hard pressed
    to say they just pulled it out of the butts. Nevertheless... they
    should've had the wehre-with-all to know better and do what's best for
    everyone! I mean really... I just as soon keep a computer image of
    each service pack and if I need to go back one... I'll just blow that
    image down... it's actually faster than messing w/ Swx WI installation
    / rollback feature!

    Eric
     
    Eric Swartz, Jan 13, 2004
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  4. Eric Swartz

    matt Guest

    It seems to me that there were some pretty vitriolic posts here a while
    ago that demanded that SW be able to uninstall service packs. Those are
    the people we have to thank for the WI. Be careful of what you wish for,
    you may get it.

    I'm having a hard time finding anything positive about the WI compared to
    the old way of doing it.


    matt


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    matt, Jan 13, 2004
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  5. Eric Swartz

    Rocko Guest

    I really don't know what takes the WI so long to do an update. And for
    some
    I really get worried when software on its own accesses the internet. Makes
    you wonder if some of the issues we all have could be bluebeam related since
    the sp2 knocked it out then they to down the sp2.
     
    Rocko, Jan 13, 2004
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  6. Eric Swartz

    Jeff N Guest

    Of all things they focus development on being able to rollback service
    packs? Maybe because they know some SP's are crap! Then to throw salt in the
    wound it takes longer to apply the new service packs or roll one back than
    it does reinstalling from scratch! HTH can you say we shouldn't be
    complaining about that!?!?!?!

    (best beaver impression)
    Well, gee Mr. SolidWorks. You're the greatest.

    Jeff
    "Can I be a Keynote speaker at SWW 2004?"
     
    Jeff N, Jan 13, 2004
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  7. Eric Swartz

    SBC Guest

    From what I've been able to conclude is that when performing a SP update the
    WI verifies the 'integrity' of the installed files before performing the
    actual update. Good idea but takes to long. I don't know much about the WI
    but I believe this is an option that can (read: SHOULD) be turned off.
     
    SBC, Jan 13, 2004
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  8. Eric Swartz

    Jim Sculley Guest

    Not so sure. You think SW has corner cases? Imagine trying to create a
    web browser capable of properly rendering all the HTML in the world that
    doesn't conform to any standard, but 'used to look just fine' in browser
    XYZ from 1992.


    Jim S.
     
    Jim Sculley, Jan 13, 2004
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  9. Eric Swartz

    P Guest

    Hee hee hee..... I have a secret that has helped me avoid these problems.


    ....snip
     
    P, Jan 14, 2004
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