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Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by phil scott, Jun 8, 2008.

  1. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    So just follow the headers back to the original !
    Pretty simple.

    You've heard of Usenet & posts, right?

    BTW, How did you make out with Professor Parker?
     
    Cliff, Jun 9, 2008
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  2. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    What would I do without my jb fix?
    I used to have several others in training as spares but ....
    LOL
     
    Cliff, Jun 9, 2008
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  3. I think this one is broken now too Cliff.
    You are a little off the beam yourself these days. You completely missed my
    Freudian "intellectual poverty" remark.
     
    John R. Carroll, Jun 9, 2008
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  4. phil scott

    vinny Guest

    But I have a life?
    Of course, but all I hear from you is Stalking, Spamming, Snipping, and
    Pasting?

    Can you or anybody else disagree with that?
    WTf?
    Whatever the frig that means?
     
    vinny, Jun 9, 2008
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  5. phil scott

    phil scott Guest

    I dont think he advocated that... saying merely that solid edge can
    edit it without having to know the history or edit the base sketches.

    have you seen the solid edge demonstrations of that?


    Phil Scott
     
    phil scott, Jun 9, 2008
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  6. phil scott

    phil scott Guest


    In my case i design build skid equipment. steel frame, pumps, pipe and
    valves mounted.. maybe 100 parts max. ... simple is a lot more useful
    for me than having to cope with the ultra sophisticated capabilities
    you are discussing.


    Phil Scott
     
    phil scott, Jun 9, 2008
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  7. phil scott

    phil scott Guest


    I ve found inventor anything but easy to learn myself...archane beyond
    all conception...and from looking at the SW site examples it should
    be easier than Inventor... and solid works a lot easier than either
    one.

    In looking at the Solid edge examples I see a vastly simpler system
    than either iinventor or SW, no history required or insight on how the
    part was drawn needed to edit it...

    It looks vastly better than both SW and inventor by a huge margin...
    but I dont know of course.. it is from a major company in germany
    Seimens and its going to sell for 5k or so, and it can interlink to
    spread sheets and do arrays etc (the really cheap CAD wont do arrays
    as you know).. see their demo's... edits parts live without having to
    dig up the sketches in order and edit each one of those... much
    faster.



    will it actually work that way in practice? I dont know... but its
    a credible company and what they are demonstrating shows serious
    advance.


    id be interested in what you have to say after looking at their demo's


    Phil Scott
     
    phil scott, Jun 9, 2008
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  8. phil scott

    phil scott Guest


    thanks...i found the comments re the pain in the ass aspects
    valuable... I am a custom equipment builder and do 3D cad to show off
    and sell custom equipment... I dont like spending much time on that..
    My CAD work runs less than 5 hours a week.... so I dont need
    complexity that can do a lot of things Im not interested in.. and
    what I do needs to be fast as hell.

    Thanks for the advice re getting a trial period prior to final
    purchase... no doubt solid edge can be talked into that.... maybe
    you should look at their demo's... it sure looks like the next level
    advance to me... about a fifth of the commands required... it is AI
    to some extent.....history and sequence of original construction not
    relevant...you can make a late stage change without having to go back
    to the original sketches. or know how the model was built..... thats
    the claim anyway, the demo's of course support it... and its
    supposedin in use at Seimens for a while now.

    time will tell. it has me more than slightly interested.


    Phil Scott
     
    phil scott, Jun 10, 2008
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  9. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    They wore out or went bust a bit early.
    Still no sign of baywords.com again ...

    BTW, Speaking of "Hybrid" ...
    http://www.computerworld.com/html/surveys/salarysurvey_2008.html
    [
    IBM's Roadrunner supercomputer has smashed the high-tech equivalent of the
    four-minute mile by breaking the lofty petaflop barrier.

    IBM executives announced today that the company's latest supercomputer - a
    hybrid system running AMD Opteron processors and Cell chips - sustained a speed
    of 1.026 quadrillion calculations per second. That's about twice as fast as the
    next fastest supercomputer, IBM's BlueGene/L, which is based at the Lawrence
    Livermore National Laboratory.

    The new machine would need a single week to run a calculation that the fastest
    supercomputer 10 years ago would have needed 20 years to complete.
    ......
    Roadrunner uses 3.9 megawatts of power, which Grice noted is enough to power
    39,000 100-watt light bulbs. It has 6,948 dual-core Opterons on IBM LS21 Blades,
    as well as 12,960 Cell processors on IBM QS22 blades. The machine, which has 80
    terabytes of memory, has 296 IBM BladeCenter H racks. It takes up 6,000 square
    feet, uses 57 miles of fiber optic cable and weighs in at 500,000 pounds.
    ......
    This new version of Roadrunner also runs Linux and gets its hefty power boost by
    adding the Cell chips, originally designed jointly by IBM, Toshiba and Sony for
    the latter's PlayStation 3 game console, to the Opteron base. The hybrid
    supercomputer will use the Cell chips for massive calculations.
    ]
    Often tired, sorry.
    That I did.
     
    Cliff, Jun 10, 2008
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  10. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    You had time to complain.
    Short stuff, eh?
    I commented on (and quoted) what was relevent to what I wanted
    to comment on.

    Do you have a better cure for the Work Coordinate System
    than jb's?

    We USED to just define the ones we wanted to use & go from
    there, simple point,vector,vector stuff.
    I guess this more modern stuff where you always have to keep
    moving the geometry about (and programming in the machine's
    coordinate system) is too modern for me.

    Though I do suppose that creating all lines on the X axis (once
    you've movedall the other geometry about) is kind of simple, right?
    Why did we not think of this earlier??
    Perhaps some thought.
    You were posting winger lies & propaganda (simple
    [but clueless & wrong] science stuff you did not quite
    seem to grasp even though you had copied it) about
    global warming not existing ..... LOL ...
    Dr. Parker, for one, replied to you.
     
    Cliff, Jun 10, 2008
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  11. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    Which are then no longer associated to/with the original SW
    files.
    He could just as easily import dumb wireframe or something
    into MasterCAM, could he not?
    Well, perhaps not as that what he tried (or claimed, anyway)
    with an IGES file from Pro-E & then could not find the circles &
    I'm not a canned demo & ad junkie, sorry.
     
    Cliff, Jun 10, 2008
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  12. phil scott

    jon_banquer Guest

    "the site is temporarily down - we're working on it as we speak. We've
    had a outage in two servers on separate locations, sorry."

    Since the Jon Banquer blog is so popular when it comes back up I will
    mirror it on 2 separate hosts.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
    http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/
     
    jon_banquer, Jun 10, 2008
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  13. phil scott

    Guest Guest

    If this is for learning purposes and you have some Inventor training the
    student version of Solid Works or Inventor is under $150 each.

    Bob
     
    Guest, Jun 10, 2008
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  14. phil scott

    jon_banquer Guest

    The new Jon Banquer blog can be found here:

    http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/

    Check out the pages on why all present books that try to teach CAM
    suck and the page on suggestions for CAM book and CAM video authors.

    The Jon Banquer blog is the leader when it comes to cutting through
    the bullshit that fills the CADCAM world.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jun 12, 2008
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  15. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    Demand a 16 hour video of those charts so that every time you need to
    countersink a hole you can watch the video again to get the correct
    number from the chart.
     
    Cliff, Jun 12, 2008
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  16. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    Such as knowing about some simple shop math (entry level trig)?
     
    Cliff, Jun 12, 2008
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  17. phil scott

    gk Guest

     
    gk, Jun 13, 2008
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  18. phil scott

    jon_banquer Guest

    The new Jon Banquer blog can be found here:

    http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/

    Check out the pages on why all present books that try to teach CAM
    suck and the page on suggestions for CAM book and CAM video authors.

    The Jon Banquer blog is the leader when it comes to cutting through
    the bullshit that fills the CADCAM world.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jun 13, 2008
    #38
  19. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    I like the broken English too. It adds just
    the right banquer touch. Fine planning & execution.
     
    Cliff, Jun 13, 2008
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  20. phil scott

    jon_banquer Guest

    The new Jon Banquer blog can be found here:

    http://jonbanquer.wordpress.com/

    Check out the pages on why all present books that try to teach CAM
    suck and the page on suggestions for CAM book and CAM video authors.

    The Jon Banquer blog is the leader when it comes to cutting through
    the bullshit that fills the CADCAM world.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jun 13, 2008
    #40
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