Solidworks Through All Hole

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by jtnpham, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. jtnpham

    jtnpham Guest

    I am having trouble making a through all hole. Now, I have done
    plenty of regular through all holes that go either vertical or
    horizontal. But, this current project I am working on requires a hole
    that is angled at 45 degrees.

    I will just quickly describe the part:

    There is a base plate that is 8"x8". In the center is a cylinder with
    a height of 2". On the top of the cylinder is a chamfer at a 45
    degree angle for .75". On this chamfer is where I need to put this
    through all hole.

    I already have the circle drawn on that side by sketching a plane on
    the chamfer. It's just that when I go to extruded cut it says that I
    need to specify the direction of extrusion. I thought that I would be
    able to select the plane to show the direction, but it says it is
    invalid.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks!
     
    jtnpham, Aug 24, 2007
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  2. I believe direction refers to a vector direction (a line in this case)
    not a surface.
     
    Bruce Bretschneider, Aug 25, 2007
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  3. jtnpham

    jon_banquer Guest

    In the Cut- Extrude Feature for this hole have you tried using: Up To
    Next?
     
    jon_banquer, Aug 25, 2007
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  4. jtnpham

    jon_banquer Guest

    Maybe your plane is not on the same angle as your chamfer is? I have a
    file where I created what I think is similar to what you describe
    above. Do you want me to upload it so that you can see how I did it?
     
    jon_banquer, Aug 25, 2007
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  5. jtnpham

    jon_banquer Guest

    I should have also said:

    I created a Reference Plane that is on a 45-degree angle to the Right
    Plane to sketch the through hole on.
     
    jon_banquer, Aug 25, 2007
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  6. jtnpham

    brewertr Guest

    Rather than jumping through hoops use the hole wizard.
     
    brewertr, Aug 25, 2007
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  7. jtnpham

    jon_banquer Guest

    Rather than jumping through hoops use the hole wizard.

    There are no hoops to jump through. This is as basic as it gets.

    If he does use the hole wizard should he use a 2D or 3D sketch?

    What are the pluses and minuses of each?
     
    jon_banquer, Aug 25, 2007
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  8. I created a sample of what I thought he was trying to using a reference
    plane and the hole wizard. If you select the reference plane first,
    then open hole wizard you will only have to work with a 2D sketch.

    Bruce B.
    Phoenix, AZ
     
    Bruce Bretschneider, Aug 25, 2007
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  9. jtnpham

    zxys Guest

    it's possible that you will need too add a second direction (to ciut
    away the back face) because the sketch is within the chamfer face or
    enveloped such that it causes a error?

    ...
     
    zxys, Aug 25, 2007
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  10. jtnpham

    brewertr Guest

    Draw it up both ways per the OP's description and check it out for
    yourself. Place three holes the same size on that surface.

    Then make a drawing for each model. Make sure you have one view normal
    to the holes and dimension them using "annotation" "hole callout".

    It should become clear.

    ________________________________


    I do tend to use the hole wizard a lot, as a matter of practice I like
    to c-sink holes to deburr them. I like it dimensioned and called on
    the print (rather than a general note) so at manufacturing the parts
    are not deburred too little or too much. Adding a c-sink with the hole
    wizard is very easily done and it's just a couple clicks to get the
    dimensions called out on the print.

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Aug 25, 2007
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  11. jtnpham

    Dale Dunn Guest

    I already have the circle drawn on that side by sketching a plane on
    You say you sketched a plane on the chamfer. Is this circle on a sketched
    plane in a 3DSketch? That would explain why you need to secify a direction
    vector. I haven't done much extruding from 3DSketches, but I remember
    thinking it was being fussy about what it would accept to define the
    direction vector. I doesn't seem to accept geometry from within the
    3DSketch. If the circle is in a 3DSketch, open a 2d sketch on the plane you
    created, draw the circle on that, and all should behave normally.

    Of course, there are alternatives to this construction, such as using the
    hole wizard with a 3DSketch, or creating the hole with a cut-revolve. I
    don't know what your design requires.
     
    Dale Dunn, Aug 25, 2007
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  12. jtnpham

    jon_banquer Guest

    "If you select the reference plane first, then open hole wizard you
    will only have to work with a 2D sketch"

    I was looking to see if Tom Brewer really understood how the Hole
    Wizard worked. As I suspected he doesn't. You do.

    I think it's important to understand how the Hole Wizard works if
    you're going to use it. I got a much better understanding of the Hole
    Wizard and Toolbox from reading the SolidWorks Bible.
     
    jon_banquer, Aug 25, 2007
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  13. jtnpham

    brewertr Guest

    I don't believe I made claims on how the hole wizard worked.

    I did make a mistake though when I last posted saying you should check
    out my recommendations and yours heads up. I forgot the .750 x 45°
    champher was on a cylinder and was thinking the .750 x 45° champher
    was on an extruded square.
    First I felt you had the OP jumping through hoops, setting up a plane,
    sketching a circle, dimensioning, positioning, & constraining it then
    extruding it through the part to put a simple hole in his part.

    I suggested an alimentative that he use the hole wizard where you
    disagreed.

    Its hard to keep up with all your flip flopping, are you now saying
    use the hole wizard Jon?
    Tom

    To Jon "I prefer a rational discussion between people who really use
    the software. You prove on a regular basis that you can't be
    rational, and you have never said anything that makes me believe you
    have more than a passing familiarity with SolidWorks." - Mat Lombard
    - Author - SolidWorks 2007 Bible - Aug 19, 2007-
     
    brewertr, Aug 25, 2007
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  14. jtnpham

    jon_banquer Guest

    Ignorant:

    Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
    anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
    now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Tom Brewer has in many ways become just like Cliffy and that's what
    "Reverse Stalking" does to someone.

    Perhaps Tom Brewer, like Cliffy, now desires to become more like
    me! :>)
     
    jon_banquer, Aug 25, 2007
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  15. jtnpham

    jon_banquer Guest

    What others have said about the SolidWorks Bible:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cu...books&customer-reviews.start=1#R1ZZ5JYZTTJORR


    "The book is not written in a way that explains detail steps or
    procedures and the author assumes that you know a lot about
    SolidWorks. The book moves very slow is some sections and fly's in
    other sections."

    "The pictures and print quality reminded me of a poor Xerox copy. I
    expected much more."

    "...the author often jumps around and provides information in a random
    chaotic style"

    What I have to say:

    While the author of the SolidWorks Bible is often wrong and is a total
    asshole the fact is that in a vacuum the SolidWorks Bible is of the
    best thing since sliced bread. It's unfortunate the author of the
    SolidWorks Bible can't deal with constructive criticism that has been
    written about his book and feels he has to insult others because their
    opinions differ with his. It's also a shame that the author Matt
    Lombard feels he has to try and rewrite history in regards to
    SolidWorks not supporting disjoint bodies for so long. The FACT is
    Matt Lombard bought into the nonsense that SolidWorks sales idiots
    were preaching about disjoint solids. Those of us who came from better
    modelers than SolidWorks was at that time, knew better! Matt Lombard
    didn't know better and he bought into SolidWorks sales nonsense hook,
    line and sinker. What Matt Lombard writes about this subject in the
    SolidWorks Bible is pure bullshit and Google shows how correct I am
    when I say this.

    Just because I think Matt Lombard is an asshole of a person and is a
    liar is no reason not to recommend his book at this point in time. The
    SolidWorks Bible needs a ton of work to make it a standard rather than
    just the only book that's does what SolidWorks Corp. won't do...
    document how SolidWorks really works.

    In this vacuum I give the SolidWorks Bible five stars. Too bad it's so
    fucking boring and disorganized or I would have already finished it by
    now.
     
    jon_banquer, Aug 25, 2007
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    brewertr Guest

    Not what I said Jon and you know it, you Banquerized it.

    I said I never had difficulty finding and hiring good machinists in
    San Diego. I have I worked and hired machinists in San Diego, you have
    not. There is a shortage of journeymen machinists willing to work for
    operator wages but that's not your point it is mine.
    What is ignorant is that as a machine operator you have NO first hand
    knowledge or experience hiring people but you are representing
    yourself as knowledgeable on the subject.

    You have repeatedly refused to answer a simple related question "What
    do you feel is the going wage for a Journeyman Machinist?" The people
    you listening to are telling you what you want to hear and expect they
    should be able to hire journeymen machinists for operator wages.

    Since you won't answer the wage question I will give you a little
    help. I saw a local CNC Machinist job ADVERTISED this week. CNC
    Machinist, three-five years CNC Lathe, ability to program, setup and
    operate CNC Lathes, pay up to $27.00 per hour with full benefits.

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Aug 25, 2007
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  17. jtnpham

    brewertr Guest

    Sure I have helped people with SolidWorks.
    You are offering no original content. All you are doing is using your
    crib notes and parroting what you read in books, news releases and saw
    in videos without understanding.

    The white paper & presentation from Delphi was pure CRAP. The numbers
    and cost savings were inflated to the point that even the clueless
    managers it was meant for should have been able to see through it.

    I made the comment that it's no wonder Delphi was removed from the NY
    Stock Exchange and in bankruptcy since 2005 if that is a sample of
    their work.

    I said that you Jon should not be promoting what a bankrupt company is
    pushing. When a company is in bankruptcy I said normally the lessons
    learned are what not to do and you disagreed.
    You're the one just learning SolidWorks, I use SolidWorks daily,
    companies buy the products I design.

    I don't have anything to prove by posting models. If a model is
    necessary to make a point and I feel like making one up to help
    someone I send it to them privately.

    Jon Banquer: "you have never said anything that makes me believe you
    have more than a passing familiarity with SolidWorks." - Mat Lombard
    - Author - SolidWorks 2007 Bible -Aug 19, 2007-

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Aug 25, 2007
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  18. jtnpham

    Cliff Guest

    So you don't grasp it, eh?
     
    Cliff, Aug 26, 2007
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  19. jtnpham

    Cliff Guest

    Can you select the plane's surface normal? It might need to
    be inverted (should depend on how plane was defined in many
    CAD or CAD/CAM systems).
    Or the axis of the circle?
     
    Cliff, Aug 26, 2007
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  20. jtnpham

    Cliff Guest

    Still no clues, eh?
     
    Cliff, Aug 26, 2007
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