SolidWorks or ProE?

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by CDC, Sep 16, 2005.

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    CDC Guest

    Hello group, this topic may have been posted before but my firm is looking
    to either get SolidWorks or ProE to do our design work.

    Our main work is machine design which consist of 1000 parts or more.

    Can anyone give any advice on which would be the best for us?

    Thanks in advance

    Eric
     
    CDC, Sep 16, 2005
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    ms Guest

    Solidworks
     
    ms, Sep 16, 2005
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  3. Don't get too bogged down in the software capabilities - there are plusses
    and minus in both camps which you could [and people do] argue the toss about
    forever - the capabilities of your team are more significant on how quickly
    and efficiently the job gets done. The bigger picture is whats going to
    really get you going later on when you've spent the money and are
    committed - oncosts, support, bug fixes, training, cost of additional
    modules, etc.

    They should be up for leaving a setup with you for a month or so for you to
    play with - what ever you do, don't believe the hype. The Solidworks team
    in particular are very well rehearsed and slick when it comes to demo's and
    sales pitches.

    Talk to customers from both sides who are a couple of years down the road
    about those things and you soon realise that how the assembly is managed or
    how you produce a set of drawings is not going to be your biggest nightmare.

    Sean

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    Sean Kerslake, Sep 16, 2005
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    peterbrown77 Guest

    A few years ago I worked on SolidWorks 2001 and ProE 2001 at the same
    time, converting an assembly that I had done in SW as a trial-run into
    ProE (we picked Pro).

    One thing that I noticed was that, running on the same hardware, ProE
    had a definite performance advantage as more and more parts were
    brought into session. This was by no means as large an assy as yours
    will be - it had perhaps 200 components. Even just spinning the model
    in Pro was 2 or 3 times faster. Regen of the assembly drawing was also
    an order of magnitude faster.

    While these are certainly not scientific or quantified observations, I
    distinctly remember being taken aback at how the two different systems
    handled complex assemblies.

    Of course these observations are now ancient history. But SW is still
    wedded to the Parasolids kernel so I don't see how they are really able
    to gain any significant performance increase without a drastic rewrite,
    which would likely make migration of older parts problematic. Also, SW
    was aware of the problem - witness their introduction of 'lightweight'
    parts at about that time, whose functionality was specifically to
    address SW's shortcomings in that area.

    Another consideration is downstream processes. Do you manufacture your
    1000 item assemblies or farm them out? If you do them yourself you are
    going to need a lot of third-party applications, such as CAM. This is
    where ProE really shines (so does UG NX2, by the way). We're an OEM
    and generate all of our NC code directly from the original model, which
    virtually guarantees accuracy and makes engineering change and revision
    control part and parcel of toolpath creation (if you're using PDM such
    as Windchill or Intralink). Once you start creating IGES files of your
    parts or bring them outside of your PDM system to do manufacturing, you
    break that relationship between design and the shop floor.

    I think that if you do kind of one-off designs that have no lifecycle
    to maintain, then Solidworks or Solid Edge are fine products for you -
    affordable, easy to learn, lots of third-party apps, slick in
    execution. If, however, you 'own' your designs and are responsible for
    turning them into reality and supporting them for years, a
    full-featured system (ProE, NX2, Catia) is going to serve you much
    better in the long term. SW or SE will look good for the first 6 or 12
    months, but you will only start to see the real shortcomings of
    so-called 'mainstream' CAD when you've already started burying
    yourself.

    Regards
     
    peterbrown77, Sep 16, 2005
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    Pro Designer Guest

    OlidWorks and Pro/E are not in the same class,
    Pro/E is a high end software SW a more midrange .
    Pro/E is complete , including surfacing and complex surfacing packages with
    SW you're stuck in simple shape and very basic surfaces.
    If you need any plastic design with some style surfacing capability then
    SW is not what you're looking for, you might take a look at the big step
    brother(sister) CATIA.
    For nits and bolts SW is just fine and also Pro/E will perform great also.
    The learning curve is way shorter for SW compared with Pro/E , took me one
    week to get
    pretty good at it coming from 8 years of Pro/E.
     
    Pro Designer, Dec 2, 2005
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    peterbrown77 Guest

    Pro/ENGINEER. Have used both, there is no comparison.
     
    peterbrown77, Dec 24, 2005
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