SolidWorks & 64 bit

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Jay, Dec 30, 2003.

  1. Jay

    Jay Guest

    So now with AMD selling 64 bit processors and Microsoft coming out with XP
    64 bit operating systems, how long till SolidWorks will be programmed to run
    64 bit? With all the bloat that happening in the software, surely we could
    all benefit from this if it happens sooner rather than later.

    Just pondering what system to upgraded to and how long the wait will be
    before I can benefit from it.

    Jay
     
    Jay, Dec 30, 2003
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  2. The pace at which swx is becoming less productive is likely to continue
    offsetting any
    hardware speed increases. On a modern PC Sw2004 is much slower to use
    than was sw2001 on a P3-750. If swx doesn't establish some priority on
    performance,
    I think hardware improvements will be treading water, at best.
    I'm hoping the NBT (speed/productivity) in modeling software will emerge
    soon, meanwhile
    just finishing my first (and last) fixture drawing set in sw2004.
    my $.02
    bill
     
    bill allemann, Dec 30, 2003
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  3. Jay

    kellnerp Guest

    I don't suspect they will do it anytime soon. Your question got me to
    thinking:

    SolidWorks has a solid record of not supporting performance oriented
    hardware. For example:

    AGP bus -- not supported
    64bit -- dropped. Used to support it circa 1995,1996, 1997
    Hyperthreading -- not supported, causes performance decrease if turned on
    Multiprocessing -- not supported but can result in imperceptible speed
    increase. (see clustering below for other SW apps that aren't supported)
    Clustering -- not supported even by apps that can utilize it like
    CosmosWorks and FloWorks.

    While FloWorks has made tremendous strides in performance over the last few
    years, let us not forget that they are really NIKA and are licensed by SW.

    That being said, apparently the AMD 64 bit processors will run 32 bit OS and
    apps quite well and do offer two key advantages, the ability to run a great
    deal more memory than is possible with current Intel processors and a great
    deal more memory bandwidth than is currently available. So they are on top
    for running 32 bit apps and when software vendors start coming out with 64
    bit apps that are cost effective they will have little choice but to go
    with AMD.
     
    kellnerp, Dec 31, 2003
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  4. offer two key advantages, the ability to run a great
    Just a question - will we still have the Windows limitation of only 2GB per
    application (3GB if the switch is hacked), or does Windows XP work with 64
    bit processors? Accessing more memory would be a HUGE advantage, especially
    with the way SWx is going. But it might as well not be there if the OS
    doesn't allow it.
     
    Edward T Eaton, Dec 31, 2003
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  5. Jay

    Jay Guest

    Jay, Dec 31, 2003
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  6. Jay

    kellnerp Guest

    Ed,

    If you look into what AnandTech, TomsHardware and others are doing I think
    you will find they are running 32 bit OS and 32 bit apps on their AMD 64
    bit systems.

    For example AnandTech tests with this configuration using plain old XP Pro:
    http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1937&p=3

    Here LostCircuits does the same:
    http://www.lostcircuits.com/motherboard/asus_k8v/8.shtml

    Right now when we talk about 64 bit systems we have to limit ourselves to 64
    bit running in 32 bit compatibility mode. Still fast and on top, but not
    yet truely running 64 bit apps. What you apparently do get for running 32
    bit apps is a really fast memory bus and top notch processing speed.
     
    kellnerp, Jan 1, 2004
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