SolidWorks 2007 Beta4

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Jason, Jun 15, 2006.

  1. Jason

    Jason Guest

    Solidworks 2007 Beta4 is available in the subscription site.
     
    Jason, Jun 15, 2006
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  2. Jason

    Ray Guest

    Has anyone been able to get this to work?
    I downloaded it and the installation hung at my serial number even
    though my subscription is current?
     
    Ray, Jun 15, 2006
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  3. Jason

    neil Guest

    most probably you should ask this on the beta forum
     
    neil, Jun 15, 2006
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    pete Guest

    Goes to show they even have problems with the basics, still!!!!, lol
     
    pete, Jun 16, 2006
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  5. Jason

    Ray Guest

    Neil,
    Where is the beta forum?
    I called our VAR and SolidWorks yesterday afternoon and neither would
    support this beta. The SolidWorks beta contest ended the 9th of June. I
    was too busy this spring to test but had a break this week.
    SolidWorks told me they had email support but the guy on the phone
    could not tell me the email address or the link on the corporate web
    site to find email support. I also looked for the forum on the
    SolidWorks community site and found nothing.
    At any rate I got it installed last night on my home workstation. It
    looks pretty good from the little playing I did last evening.
    The SolidWorks Installation Manager is new and this is what we will be
    using going forward; maybe I goofed it up at the office yesterday, I
    will try again today.
    Has anyone got any comments on any beta testing they may have done on
    this or prior betas?
    Thanks for your comments.
    Ray
     
    Ray, Jun 16, 2006
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    neil Guest

    not participating myself but should be accessible here
    http://beta.solidworks.com/
    BTW as a condition of being a tester you are required NOT talk about beta
    to the wider world - here, on the usual SW forum, or anywhere else other
    than the beta forum.
     
    neil, Jun 16, 2006
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  7. Jason

    Jason Guest

    Beta4 is available to all subscription customers plus Solidworks has
    announced 2007. The NDA is no longer in affect.
     
    Jason, Jun 16, 2006
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  8. Jason

    neil Guest

    really? ok so why is no one talking about it?
     
    neil, Jun 17, 2006
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    John Layne Guest

    John Layne, Jun 17, 2006
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  10. Jason

    neil Guest

    ok so I just watched the surfacing video and I have some questions :eek:)
    1.is the push pull actually useful - it seems the polygon control not used
    in the example might be easier to use than points? can I see zebra stripes
    at the same time? the manipulation points must all lie on the boundary and
    on the same plane?so no picking a 3d point and pulling on it?
    2.in the past flex has been fairly useless because it messes up surfaces and
    boundary conditions - does the new geometry handling preserve the quality?
    or is this an overstatement and misrepresentation of functionality?
    3.how does boundary surface differ from a loft? does it fail to produce C2
    results readily like trying to make lofts with conditions stumbled in the
    past?
    4.'through out many aspects'...?so it is not fully C2 yet?
     
    neil, Jun 17, 2006
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  11. Jason

    mbiasotti Guest

    MAB - You have both polygon control and direct point editing of the
    control points
    MAB - Yes, as well as the mesh. You can change the mesh density and you
    can have Curvature combs on both the mesh isos and the control curves
    with thumbwheel scaling and density slider control.
    MAB - Neil, not quite sure what you mean here but, there is a technical
    limitation currently that you can only pull the points on one control
    curve at a time. You can, however, actually move edges of the surface
    with the movable edges, or moveable edges tangent option.
    MAB - FreeForm is limited to one surface or face only currently. We
    are investigating multiple surface. You'll just have to try it to see
    if it works for your geometric case. It currently is also limited to
    4-sided surfaces, it will not do n-sided (Fill). We are looking into
    that also. It does work, however on a great many of the cases that have
    been submitted through Alpha and Beta.
    MAB - Loft is is for Solids, Boundary is for surfaces only (will not
    boundary solids) where you require higher quality and can get C2 in
    both directions, Loft can not do that. Also, there are many more
    options and controls for Boundary to get your surface just the way you
    need it to be. Connectors can be added either direction and they will
    affect the boundary surface. You also have options for the directions
    like Tangent influence which is very useful for "inflating the
    surface, especially when it wraps around corners. You can also pull the
    connectors to limit or delimit the actual surface built. You can also
    build a boundary surface for a single 1st and single 2nd direction
    curve.
    MAB - Neil, not quite sure what you mean but sufficed to say, C2 is
    not for everyone and every situation. Many times tangency is all that
    is required. Boundary will also do better at tangency than loft.
    Additionally, Boundary does not exhibit the characteristic of Loft that
    puts the influence of the profiles over the guide curves. This causes
    problems when you're trying to create as patch surface that "pulls
    tight" over four boundaries. Boundary is also better than loft in
    that the boundaries are not approximate like guide curves but much more
    accurate and you'll see this when it comes to knitting. There is a
    lot more to say about Boundary and perhaps I'll put something
    together soon for our customers to explain, in more depth, the
    differences between Loft, Fill, and Boundary. We have been working on
    Boundary over the last 24 months (was supposed to go into 2006) and
    I'm glad that we finally can give it to you. It will be the most
    important surfacing tool since Fill.

    Regards

    Mark
     
    mbiasotti, Jun 18, 2006
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  12. Jason

    neil Guest

    Sweet Jesus! someone from SW spoke to me!
    Man I'm going to frame this and put it on the toilet door for daily
    reading...
    Praise the Lord brother! Ask and ye shall receive.... :eek:)
    BTW you don't know the numbers for next weeks Lotto draw by any chance...

    Yes I would definitely like you to put something together to show the
    capability properly.
    As you know I am not a subs customer presently and haven't seen the beta but
    if you can impress me enough with new C2 I will consider coming back.
    However - it sounds like there is still important work to do and I know
    what tends to happen is that we get a whole lot of bugs/changes in new
    stuff...I see in the press images splines have improvements as well...I
    would be shy of using this release for production until sp5 anyway from past
    experience let alone aggressively using new functionality so I might even
    let subs lag another release - all depends how stable you can make it and
    how much you can impress ;o)
    BTW the new mesh import/surface fit up tools are only in the office version?
    I think a whole lot of people would like that in the core product.
    Congrats to the team for finally getting C2 out the door.
     
    neil, Jun 18, 2006
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  13. Jason

    neil Guest

    also... :eek:) is there multi-threading in 07?...you guys haven't said
    anything about this topic at all anywhere or coming Vista. I keep asking cos
    I am interested in new hardware...can we have something said about this
    officially please even if it is only an expected requirements.
     
    neil, Jun 18, 2006
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  14. Jason

    neil Guest

    ok I have one more wish remaining right?...can recent subs customers please
    continue to have access - albeit limited -to SW information through the
    portal to keep up with developments - I am thinking webcasts, sp release
    notes etc. to lessen the impact of learning about features and functionality
    that will be new to them. Maybe an area set aside just for returning
    customers?
     
    neil, Jun 19, 2006
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  15. Purely anecdotal evidence here, but we just tested out a couple of our more
    likely to fail parts built in SW06 on 64bit SW07Beta4 and they didn't
    break. No guarantees for anyone else, but this is the first time that we
    haven't broken a major part in a new version since SW99 or so.

    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Jun 22, 2006
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