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How would you know?
Plus, my business IS molds. Not yer forte last I heard. Yer too busy
demoing software to be a moldmaker. I aint got time to demo every piece of
software that comes out. Thats whay I leave this type of moT-foolery to
you.

Then just show us something. Geesh it aint all that hard to use a dropbox.

I aint doing industrial design cept for the robotics on the molds so why
should I even care? And I have no problems with it in SW. Yer just busted
on the fact that people can use a piece of software for utility and
actually PRODUCE something, instead of miming it.

Comeon and whip it out. We wanna see what you can do.

Bing

 

Man,
There's an image I didn't need :>)

 

If yer mind wasnt in the gutter....... heh

Bing

 

I'm not certain that we want to see .....

 

That's your opinion. He obviously has another opinion. He's
entitled to it.

Nope. One must not rock the boat to hard and not complain to much.

I have never found Michael to be rude. Hard headed and stuborn,
yes. :>) Rude... uh no.

Smart.... beyond a shadow of a doubt. Michael certainly figured out
why "The Virus" acts like he does.

Maybe you should write Dennis Miller and tell him what you think of his
rants. LOL.

Rhino fills a void right now but that void is going to dissapear as more
solid modelers become better hybrid modelers. I went and took a look
at the Rhino newsgroup... same old posters. Don't see much of a
change... yawn.

Because it fills a void and because McNeel does a good job of
stroking them while delivering a rate of development that is very,
very, very slow.

Hope you had a good day... I know I did. :>)

jon

 

Because it fills a void and because McNeel does a good job of

It fills a few voids, I believe. FWIW, I have to hand it to McNeel; they
aren't pretentious, certainly not a pretentious price and are willing to
take a risk; e.g. replace AGLib with their own geometry engine which
largely explains the up to now slow. Who knows what the future holds?
It's conceivable they could turn the tables on some existing hybrid solid
modelers. They seem to have the talent on hand for some very worthwhile
development. Personally, I'd like to see them move in an ICEM direction
rather than concentrate too much on the already well beaten mechanical,
solid, etc. paths.

 

McNeel were never honest with their users about this and what it would
entail. Turned out this set McNeel back 2 years. They never even told
their users in the beginning how extensivley AGLib was integrated into Rhino
and most Rhino users were happy to be kept in the dark.... SURPRISE ! : (

IMO, Bob McNeel should have hired Gary Crocker and his partner to integrate
their solid modeling kernel into Rhino years ago... rather than ask Gary to
come up with an add-in.

They could have done this if Bob McNeel had focused on what the real market
was / is not what Bob McNeel wanted it to be. Keep in mind, Bob McNeel
derives alot of his money from selling Autodesk products. Originally, I
think Rhino was suppose to be an AutoCAD add-in.

Unfortunatly I think were years out from anyone doing this. Nice
thought, though. :>)

jon

 

McNeel were never honest with their users about this

Well, I guess that's one way of looking at it, but I don't see them as
being dishonest about it. Just how superficially would one expect the
foundation of the program be "integrated"? At any rate what alternatives
were / are there for about $700? Setback or no, some of their shape
definition / manipulation capabilities are still unequaled by software
costing several to many times as much and they weren't chargeing users
annual "maintenance" or "subscription" fees while they were playing catch
up. To each his own ...

 

Folks that can actually use the software?

LOL .....

 

Did someone just feed poor clueless a new buzzword to choke on?

LOL ...

 

Should be nobody left on the Rhino NG either

Hmm, seem to remember similar statements when you were on your "Concepts"
run - what was it - a year ago? BTW, what void precisely does Rhino fill,
actually? The sole reason for it's continued existence? Like to hear it
from you.

I went and took a look

LOL. You maybe know a half dozen names you've seen before. If you don't
count OT topics on AMC, the Rhino group has a whole lot more posts daily
than here. Since I left last night at 7PM to 9AM this morning, there were
90 new posts. Lots of newbies and names I've never seen before, some new
"regulars" etc...

Of course, there is the VX forum on cadchat. Same old posters - Jon Banquer
and Jon Banquer (replying to his own post). Now that's *really* exciting.

You think development is slow? I get a new V4 WIP about every two to three
weeks. And new plug-ins, add-ons, scripts, macros for V3 are posted almost
every day. Virtually all free, too. Honestly, I don't have the time to try
even half of them.

 

.... I get a new V4 WIP about every two to three .....

Think you've touched on one reason the program has developed a loyal,
trusting following; open Alpha and Beta testing discussed on a public forum
vs. the Secret Squirrel stuff that goes on in the MCAD world. Guess that's
a luxury that can only be afforded by those that fill a (pretty big) void?

 

Well, he requested it in response to his own "post" ....... is he
confused again yet? Had many warnings from the BBS operator?

 

I can only go on the inomation provided, but poor you, even we can afford to
pay for a cleaner, lol
But I am impressed about the robotics, something I have been wanting to get
into myself for a long time.
Are these run from a pc, or are they stand alone?
No luck with the pay rise :-(
Sorry to have got you defensive.
Well have a good day and please get a cleaner , scrubbing bogs out is not
nice, lol

 

Yea, but then again in another sense I really dont mind cleanin a toilet
for what I make.

We use proprietary systems built into their controls. I have had to learn
them in that manner as the pressmen set them up as well and we interface
them into the presses.

Mostly what I am concerned with them is with cycle time, error control etc.

I also have to make sure the robotics themselves can handle the cycle duty
and the heat so I confer with their engineering department alot.

We have 3 axis including sprue pickers built in with secondary neumatic
control that do something non related to the robot but thats top secret. I
cant comment further.

If yer looking for a good resource for robotics ask Anthony. He's got alot
of study under his belt in that area.

Bing

 

Mitch & jb,
How did this all work out?
Did jb fix the part automatically with VX properly?
It seems rather quiet .....

 

I do. So do others.

BTW, how do you develop a VAR network when you sell software for
$700 ? :>)

I do agree that there are elements or Rhino that are excellent. What I
don't agree with is that it's a complete package.

Like you said, to each his own.

Can you point me to any of your posts in the McNeel newsgroup where
you ask for features that are found in ICEM Surf ? Have you used
ICEM Surf ?

jon

 

While McNeel does some very good things that others now do as well
(Concepts has an open web board and does open beta testing) they still
play many of the same Secret Squirrel games.

Too bad more users don't have the balls to be more proactive in regards
to the "Secret Squirrel" shit that is in FACT the norm in CAD/CAM.

jon

 

The VX Forum on www.cadchat.com was started a few days ago and already
someone posted asking for some opinions on VX. Not a bad start. :>) Of
course a successful independant VX forum is probably not what a lot of
people want. ;>) Probably take a good year to get it going. You seem to
have a problem with this. Any reason why, Mitch ? I note that you also
have a problem with Michael Gailey and of course me. Any reason
why you feel so threatened ? Was it easier when it was just me that
questioned Rhino's development ?

Concepts runs on a Mac. Does Rhino ?

I already answered your other questions many times before and doing so again
would just bore me to tears.

jon

 

BTW, Any idea how easy it is to do a remove and replaces face(s) in
VX ? Incredibly easy, very powerful.

Apparently this tool STILL won't be in Rhino V4.

???

!!!!

Just another example of how incomplete I feel Rhino is.

I don't know about you but I find this to be a very useful and very powerful
tool that I would not want to do without... er you are doing without.
Never mind.

Perhaps download VX and see what your missing ? :>)

jon