SolidWorks 2005 Surface Tangency

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by jon banquer, Jan 23, 2005.

  1. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest

    jon banquer, Jan 23, 2005
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  2. jon banquer

    That70sTick Guest

    Jon:

    I just can't let this one slide. Against my better judgment, I'm going
    to ask you if you understand the difference between C0 ,C1, and C2
    continuity.

    "No problem making faces tangent continuous in VX." only accounts for
    the C1 condition.

    Everyone else:
    Let's just quietly wait and see if he can actually give a coherent
    answer.
    Cliff:
    Stay out of this for the moment. I want to here his answer.
     
    That70sTick, Jan 23, 2005
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  3. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest

    From: "jon banquer" <>
    Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:05:38 -0700
    Local: Tues, Oct 28 2003 6:05 pm
    Subject: Re: Mark Biasotti on Wildfire vs. SolidWorks

    I have already gotten a few e-mails asking for an explanation of what
    C2 surfacing is and what the hell is it needed for. :>)


    I like this simple definition:


    http://www.cadserver.co.uk/common/viewer/archive/2000/Aug/10/feature3...


    "Surfaces are classified in three different ways: C0, C1 and C2 according to
    the degree of contin-uity (smoothness) of the surface.


    A C0 surface has one or more breaks in its continuity. A break in continuity
    of a surface is an abrupt change in surface direction. For example two flat
    sheets of metal joined at right angles have an abrupt change in continuity
    at the right angle. They form a C0 surface.


    A C1 surface has one or more changes in curvature that could cause serious
    problems to the cutter of a machine tool. For example, the cutter could
    gouge into the metal surface when the curvature changes. You might ask what'
    s the difference then between a C0 and a C1 surface. Well, a C0 surface has
    no tangency at the discontinuity, whereas a C1 surface does have tangency.
    For example, a C1 surface could be made by joining a flat sheet of metal to
    a curved sheet of metal, such that the flat and the curve are tangential
    across the joint. Gouging can still occur where the sheets join, especially
    if the curvature is too much for the machine tool.


    C2 surfaces are, as you have probably guessed, the bee's knees. C2 surfaces
    have continuous curvature."


    jon
     
    jon banquer, Jan 23, 2005
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  4. jon banquer

    That70sTick Guest

    Not bad. Better than I expected.

    Now, can you find the C0 dicontinuities in the logic of your original
    post?
     
    That70sTick, Jan 23, 2005
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  5. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest

    I'm really not concerned with living up to your expectations.

    I will say this latest charade of yours, where you got blown out of the
    water once again, shows why I have such low expectations of you.

    "The Virus" will be along any minute so you can suckle.

    jon
     
    jon banquer, Jan 23, 2005
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  6. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest

    Newsgroups: comp.cad.solidworks
    From: "jon banquer" <>
    Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 19:24:35 -0700
    Subject: Re: Mark Biasotti on Wildfire vs. SolidWorks

    As explained by Joe Greco:


    "C0, C1 and C2 Surface Conditions


    Generally, there are three kinds of boundary
    conditions in a surface model. C0 refers to surfaces
    that are just touching but could potentially have a
    shape corner or crease; possible manufacturing
    problems can result. C1 refers to a tangent (smooth)
    condition, and C2 to a consistent continuous tangent
    curvature. With C2, the boundary is imperceptible to
    the eye-you can't see were one surface begins and
    where on ends."


    jon
     
    jon banquer, Jan 23, 2005
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  7. jon banquer

    That70sTick Guest

    "Tangent continuous" means C1 continuity.

    How does VX's ability to handle C1 continuity compete with SW's
    shortcomings in handling C2 continuity?

    I'm going to end this now. Go ahead and get the last word in. I'm
    going to go gas myself in the garage now because I've learned you have
    low expectations of me. Truly a mortal injury to my fragile psyche.
     
    That70sTick, Jan 23, 2005
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  8. jon banquer

    That70sTick Guest

    I forgot to add my dying words...
    "No, this doesn't mean I'm taking sides with Cliff."
     
    That70sTick, Jan 23, 2005
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  9. jon banquer

    jon banquer Guest

    C2 means that the tangent direction and the curvature of the surfaces are
    the same and like I said... VX can do this. Apparently SolidWorks still
    can't.

    Any reason you can't download VX and see for yourself ?

    jon
     
    jon banquer, Jan 23, 2005
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    pete Guest

    Ok, I have to ask, why all of the bad feeling here??
    I don't take sides, just curious :)
     
    pete, Jan 23, 2005
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    Bing Guest

    Just by you repyling to him makes you part of the VX team clique brah.

    GO TEAM VX!

    And keep going all the way down the road clutching yer free demo's.

    Bing
     
    Bing, Jan 23, 2005
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  12. jon banquer

    wry&dry Guest

    OK, last time I checked this was a SolidWorks NG, people posting questions
    about how to work with SolidWorks and all its inherent limitations. JON,
    **** OFF with all your uniseamed inbred modelling software If VX is sooooo
    gooood why the **** do you need to poach solidworks users from this NG?

    VX a "uniform inbred modelling solution" date yer daughter...

    Solidworks is great, I love it. I dont give a shit about VX or VD or
    whatever you are pushing, I want to listen to knowedgeable solidworks users
    and benefit from their knowledge, if you had at least the slighest fucking
    clue you would listen quietly and develop your second rate software so it
    might stand a chance of competing in the MCAD market, last i checked VX was
    a dot on the horizon compared to SWX or IV.

    Wanker
     
    wry&dry, Jan 23, 2005
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  13. jon banquer

    Sporkman Guest

    ....(clip)...

    OK, now listen up. I don't like to take sides -- especially JBs side --
    but what he did here was to give us a shot at trying out something else
    at no risk to us. That's not a slap in the face (well, maybe a little
    slap, but a harmless one). Yeh, maybe his yammering gets on my nerves,
    too, but I can't say I like the tone that the whole newsgroup is taking
    about his posts. Even though I've poked him myself a time or two lately
    (and enjoyed it) I think it's better just to observe the adage:
    "Don't feed the trolls"

    Stooping to a low level doesn't help anyone.

    'Sporky'
     
    Sporkman, Jan 23, 2005
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  14. Hey Mark.

    Did they have those machine screws ??? I never got around to checking

    Mark
     
    Mark Mossberg, Jan 23, 2005
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  15. jon banquer

    Bing Guest

    Tell him to show me results then.

    Somehow I dont see anything other than bolstering

    Lame attempt as well.

    Bing
     
    Bing, Jan 23, 2005
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    Cliff Guest

    Was that long enough?
    He had no clue. Not a one. As usual.
     
    Cliff, Jan 23, 2005
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  17. jon banquer

    Cliff Guest

    It was just a copied bit from someone else and missed entirely the
    question about "faces tangent continuous in VX" & C1 <G>.
     
    Cliff, Jan 23, 2005
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  18. jon banquer

    Cliff Guest

    No clues from jb <G>.
     
    Cliff, Jan 23, 2005
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    pete Guest

    Two things I believe in, is free speech and not sticking my head in the
    sand.
    I thought you had those views in the USA, too?
    If replying to Jon makes me part of the VX team, so be it!
    Strange thing is, a free demo, was what got me in solid works!
    Free demos of Inventor and ProE convinced me, that they were not for me.
     
    pete, Jan 23, 2005
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  20. jon banquer

    Bing Guest

    Uh, I thought I was exercising my right of free speech.

    Well, good for you.
    Only demo I ever got for a CAD system was from Dink3.

    Oh, you must be talkin bout those other demo's

    Bing
     
    Bing, Jan 23, 2005
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