Solidity for SolidWorks?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Bo, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    The above makes sense from someone who has kicked your ass all over
    Usenet for years, Nuts son. Like Brewer you contribute nothing and you
    offer nothing to this newsgroup.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #21
  2. Bo

    Bo Guest

    Well, maybe if we look at the past, for another innovative company
    that switched from the initial management to the next generation,
    maybe we'll find some insight.

    Say Apple after Steve Jobs when they bring in John Sculley who was
    steeped in, well, sales. Who "fixed" Apple after the mess it got its
    product line into? Steve Jobs after returning, who is and was
    basically a product designer who had the consumer in mind.

    So at SolidWorks we have Mr. Ray now as CEO, and I want to know if he
    actually knows how to use SolidWorks? I doubt he is a serious user,
    but could be wrong. I suspect the demand from Dessault for profits
    from maintenance fee income is immense. Either Ray gets consumers
    what they want, or the consumers will tail back on maintenance, as I
    am doing in 2008. I can't justify the hit to productivity to go to
    2008 this year. I particularly can not justify paying $2k, for
    something I may not be able to use until June or September.

    Finding a good release of SolidWorks, using that release for 3-4 years
    until a new good release hits and buying SolidWorks again may be the
    most cost effective way to go, when you consider training time.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Jan 26, 2008
    #22
  3. Bo

    brewertr Guest

    On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:30:17 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer


    Jon,

    SolidWorks can't make you, a machine operator into a designer/engineer
    anymore than MS Word could make a Simi-functional illiterate (you)
    into a writer.

    CAD programs can't make up for your lack of a foundation built by
    education and/or experience in this field you repeatedly attempt to
    pose as an expert where you are simply a clueless beginner.

    Tom

    "I dropped out of high school to pursue my dream of making a lot of
    money and never went back" - Jon Banquer - Dec 28, 2002

    "Without a doubt SaladWorks is a complete piece of shit" - Jon
    Banquer- May 21, 2006

    "I've been away from SolidWorks for almost ten years. <snip> The
    program has changed so much in ten years that I'm still way behind
    where I need to be." - Jon Banquer - Aug. 26, 2007

    "I'm committed to working with HSMWorks to doing just that. Shouldn't
    be too hard because their head of US operations and I see things in
    almost the exact same way and because HSMWorks is interested in what I
    have to say and wants to work with me." - Jon Banquer -

    "Jon is not affiliated with HSMWorks ApS in any way and that we cannot
    control what people are writing on the web. Anybody can get
    evaluation licenses of HSMWorks and test it themselves. I hope this
    clarifies any doubt." - HSMWorks ApS -
     
    brewertr, Jan 26, 2008
    #23
  4. Bo

    Cliff Guest

    Actually quite a good deal for Tom if any good.
    And no clueless jb either no matter what.
     
    Cliff, Jan 26, 2008
    #24
  5. Bo

    Cliff Guest

    You've been trying to smoke that Lithium again.
     
    Cliff, Jan 26, 2008
    #25
  6. Bo

    Cliff Guest

    There's a Mike that now goes as as Michele in some circles.
     
    Cliff, Jan 26, 2008
    #26
  7. Bo

    Cliff Guest

    "AeroHydro has a ton of stuff available on their website on why they believe
    NURBS is NOT the way to go" - Dec 6 2002 by jon_banquer

    "Are you aware that SurfaceWorks is NOT a NURBS modeler ?" - Dec 6 2002 by
    jon_banquer

    "When important tools like what think3 has in thinkdesign with Global Shape
    Modeling tools do not get discussed in this newsgroup, I get very aggravated
    because working with NURBS surfaces and keeping C2 can be a total bitch" - Jan
    25 2003 by jon_banquer

    Now where's your famed post about 3dinkies NOT using NURBS?
     
    Cliff, Jan 26, 2008
    #27
  8. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    Either Ray gets consumers what they want, or the consumers will tail back on maintenance, as I
    In a slowing economy many SolidWorks customers will not be upgrading
    to SolidWorks 2008. Can't say I blame them.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #28
  9. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    Ignorant:

    "Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
    decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times
    that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
    after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as
    well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a
    decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
    out poorly." .... Tom Brewer

    Ignorant:

    "I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
    what I want and/ or need."... Tom Brewer who can't follow his own
    advice. See above.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet
    staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for
    doing so.

    Ignorant:

    "I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is
    in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
    what he's often like.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
    anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
    now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's unable to comprehend what's on the cover of the
    SolidWorks Bible:

    "Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."

    Ignorant:

    Someone who can't understand more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
    hate it!" type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say
    that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25
    SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
    course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when
    you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.

    Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:

    "I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks."

    "FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was
    tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
    I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
    Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."

    Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and
    yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user
    interface problems:

    "The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
    cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
    Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
    way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
    filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I
    have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."

    Conclusion:

    Tom Brewer thinks he's a SolidWorks expert. A SolidWorks expert is
    someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows
    absolutely everything about nothing.


    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #29
  10. Bo

    Bo Guest

    Meanwhile, I've finally accepted the fact that we can't get rid of
    mosquitoes here-abouts, so back to the "Solid" usability issues.

    Dessault may WANT accelerating sales and profits each year out of
    SolidWorks, but if you don't give users long term stable monthly value
    over time, then what keeps the customers buying each year?

    I have taken SolidWorks surveys from time to time, but they don't ask
    some questions I would want to know if I was inside of SolidWorks &
    TRULY NEEDED to know what happens to users, like...:

    1. How many hours per month do you spend on maintaining...

    -----A. your Windows OS?

    -----B. SolidWorks & finding fixes and workarounds for SolidWorks?

    -----C. SolidWorks & its accessory programs doing Service Pack
    upgrades?

    -----D. Negotiating with management or IT departments to try to
    improve your productivity with SolidWorks?

    2. How many times each year have you had to reinstall...:

    -----A. Solidworks

    -----B. Solidworks accessory programs and add-ons (not counting SPs)

    -----C. Windows

    3. How many hours do you estimate you have lost in the last year due
    to SolidWorks problems requiring reinstall, developing workarounds &
    debugging.

    4. Do you have a monitoring routine in place using standard files and
    functions which you use regularly which lets you know whether your
    workstation is maintaining its "as installed" speeds in various
    functions like Open, Save, Export, Redraw, Rotate, etc?

    5. Would you buy a $20 utility with standard 3D data files which
    executes a standard set of tests on your workstations to assess the
    ongoing performance of your Windows systems?

    6. Would you use UNIX on your workstation to run SolidWorks if
    SolidWorks offered the option, in order to improve your uptime and
    security & if so why not?

    If you take a look at what Apple, Inc. is doing, they are widening
    their offerings in hardware and software to give users the flexibility
    to do what they want and still make it fairly easy to control or
    recover when they can't control things. Time Machine was the start in
    10.5, and now in a month Time Capsule which is an 802.11n router w/
    server grade Hard Drive, so that all machines can be easily kept
    backed up on an hourly basis. Apple is attending to users' business,
    and they are making a ton of money doing it. The Apple Stores became
    the fastest retail launch to achieve $1B/yr sales...ever. Apple has
    proven that attending to users needs makes for great growth.

    What do I see coming from SolidWorks to help with performance and
    safety? Well, now lets count the ways, uhh...

    Hmm, I think I see an opportunity here for something which benefits
    both SolidWorks and its users. Could a salesman see such a need? Has
    it just been shot down because "SolidWorks won't make enough profit on
    it.", or has it even been considered?

    I understand SolidWorks not really using this newsgroup much (given JB
    & friends, though I just ignore that), but I seriously hope that as a
    salesman, CEO Ray gets his marketing team to keep their eyes peeled
    here on this newsgroup. If I detected all sort of innovation for
    users, I would not have written this long post.

    I think most of us on this newsgroup would love to see more
    innovations designed to improve our productivity & security, as
    opposed to spending so much time touting SolidWorks 2008, and then at
    SWks World discussing what is on the burner for SWks 2009. I'ld
    venture a guess that 95%+ of all SolidWorks users are using SolidWorks
    2007 or older. Those are viable solutions for those users, and ought
    to be minimally supported at the very least. Apple, Inc. still
    provides updates for their computers which go back at least 5 years,
    and the latest OS & Applications run acceptably on those older
    machines, and sometimes faster than prior OS versions.

    Is there something to be learned here? I truly believe there is.
    Apple has shown that user centered solutions sell, as long as you do
    NOT abandon your equipment that is already in the field.

    Enough Already - Bo
     
    Bo, Jan 26, 2008
    #30
  11. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    Is there something to be learned here?

    Yup. Solidworks Feature Manager needs to be redesigned.

    Some how in all your Apple bullshit you missed this.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #31
  12. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    Yup. Solidworks Feature Manager needs to be redesigned.
    http://dezignstuff.com/blog/2007/02/27/solidmap/

    "SW Parent/Child functionality is pretty basic and very dated. For
    some people who just like to see the information in a different
    layout, SolidMap's approach may be fine, but the things I would look
    for would be more detailed and covering more types of relations.

    In particular, SolidMap would have value to me if it had stuff that is
    either difficult or impossible to get from SolidWorks currently:

    - detail about incontext relations (sketch, feature, part, assembly)
    - warnings about circular relations in assemblies
    - warnings about relations to things in assemblies that require
    multiple rebuilds (incontext features, component patterns, etc.)
    - the interface to be laid out so you can see more than a few features
    at a time
    - option to show the feature tree in a purely history based
    representation (not indented and reordered for parent/child)
    - identify orphan features (have no relatives in the tree, and also
    features with no children in the tree)
    - information about inserted parts, split parts, etc.
    - information about references as relating to configurations
    - possibly combine Feature Statistics, since that info is already
    available"

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #32
  13. Bo

    gk Guest

    Maybe it's only high school dropouts that have difficulty with SW's
    Feature Manager as I don't and there don't seem to be many (any?)
    complaints from the other *real* users.

    gk
     
    gk, Jan 26, 2008
    #33
  14. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    Which is why we need to write.

    Write what, Bo? Once again no specifics from you.

    The Feature Manager is the heart and sole of SolidWorks and it's what
    is most dated and what needs the most work. Fix the SolidWorks Feature
    Manager and it can also be sold as an enhancement. Fixing the Feature
    Manager is a win-win situation for SolidWorks Corp.

    Instead of discussing this Bo you want to talk about Apple, OS
    problems and stalking assholes who have nothing to say.
    Give me a fucking break, Bo. If you can't focus on specifics like the
    SolidWorks Feature Manager being badly dated you're as bad as
    worthless scumbags like Cliffy, Gary Knutson and Tom Brewer who don't
    contribute jack shit to this newsgroup and instead just shit all over
    it.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #34
  15. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    What is your take on the news from SWW?

    Shows SolidWorks Corp. still doesn't get it. They are not even close
    to getting it.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #35
  16. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    as I don't and there don't seem to be many (any?)
    That's because in addition to not being able to machine jack shit you
    can barely use SolidWorks, Nuts son. Your posts here over something
    like ten years prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #36
  17. Bo

    brewertr Guest

    LOL....no original thought there Jon. You just posted your crib notes
    and will soon plagiarize, parrot and post it as your own.
     
    brewertr, Jan 26, 2008
    #37
  18. Bo

    brewertr Guest

    Contracting with that consultant to teach may be the best investment I
    ever made. But of course a high school drop out like Jon would think
    education a waste.

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Jan 26, 2008
    #38
  19. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    Contracting with that consultant to teach me maybe the best investment I
    Now it's correct Brewer:

    Ignorant:

    "Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
    decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times
    that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
    after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as
    well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a
    decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
    out poorly." .... Tom Brewer

    Ignorant:

    "I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
    what I want and/ or need."... Tom Brewer who can't follow his own
    advice. See above.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet
    staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for
    doing so.

    Ignorant:

    "I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is
    in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
    what he's often like.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
    anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
    now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's unable to comprehend what's on the cover of the
    SolidWorks Bible:

    "Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."

    Ignorant:

    Someone who can't understand more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
    hate it!" type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say
    that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25
    SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
    course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when
    you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.

    Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:

    "I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks."

    "FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was
    tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
    I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
    Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."

    Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and
    yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user
    interface problems:

    "The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
    cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
    Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
    way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
    filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I
    have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."

    Conclusion:

    Tom Brewer thinks he's a SolidWorks expert. A SolidWorks expert is
    someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows
    absolutely everything about nothing.


    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA




    ..
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #39
  20. Bo

    jon_banquer Guest

    "I have no original thought. I stalked Cliffy for years and ended up
    failing miserably in that quest. Now Jon Banquer is making me look
    like the failed worthless stalker I truly am. I offer no content to
    this newsgroup."

    Now it's correct Brewer:

    Ignorant:

    "Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
    decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times
    that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
    after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as
    well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a
    decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
    out poorly." .... Tom Brewer

    Ignorant:

    "I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
    what I want and/ or need."... Tom Brewer who can't follow his own
    advice. See above.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet
    staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for
    doing so.

    Ignorant:

    "I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is
    in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
    what he's often like.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
    anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
    now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's unable to comprehend what's on the cover of the
    SolidWorks Bible:

    "Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."

    Ignorant:

    Someone who can't understand more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
    hate it!" type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say
    that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25
    SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
    course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when
    you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.

    Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:

    "I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks."

    "FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was
    tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
    I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
    Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."

    Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and
    yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user
    interface problems:

    "The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
    cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
    Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
    way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
    filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I
    have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."

    Conclusion:

    Tom Brewer thinks he's a SolidWorks expert. A SolidWorks expert is
    someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows
    absolutely everything about nothing.


    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Jan 26, 2008
    #40
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